US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread

[JTZ]

Anybody hear Rush today?

What idiots listen to that drug induced nutcase?

[ExGingi]

For all those that are complaining about voter turnout, voter suppression, electoral college vs popular vote etc. It would be very interesting to see how elections would pan out if all states would award Electors similar to ME.

I have a hunch that a lot more people would vote in states like NY, CA and MD, and that some of the Electors would go the other way.

[good sam]

The problem that we're facing now is not systematic and widespread racism (though racism remains a problem). The problem we have now is the arrogance and ignorance of the liberal elitist class. The media is just one manifestation of it. Hollywood is another. So is the Washington-type political class, and so are universities.

I experienced it myself. Express a conservative viewpoint in class and everybody, professors and classmates, will look at you like a creature of lower intelligence. They cannot fathom how you can have attended the same university as they, yet not have become enlightened as they.

In a Health Law class, we were shown a documentary on the morality of euthanasia. I was beside myself at how my fellow orthodox classmates then publicly announced how the film had changed their viewpoint on the matter. I don't know whether they were being honest, but none would dare express an opposing viewpoint.

In a Not-For-Profit class, a professor illustrated how broad the not-for-profit laws are by giving extreme examples, which were met by resounding laughter, that the laws may even apply to organizations dedicated to the study of Creationism or the non-existence of global warming.

You were scoffed at if you refused to sign whatever petition students were peddling for LGBT rights. You were mocked if you disagreed with the student groups raising awareness for the victims of Israeli aggression. You were scorned if you had negative opinions on the Occupy Wall Street protesters.

What Will Rahn expressed with respect to the media exists in the entire elitist class. That's why young people in liberal cities across the country are protesting. They thought that they could handle defeat theoretically, before it became a reality. But as it turned out, they cannot. The outcome was wrong, they say, even if it may have been the will of the majority (this would not be any different if Trump had won the popular vote). They know better because they're enlightened. The poorly educated of middle America should not get a say, because they don't know what's best even for themselves.

Social and legal policy differences are healthy for a nation. But they become divisive when the rhetoric on one side becomes that "there is no place in this country" for the opinions of the other (I put that in quotes because we've heard the Democratic candidate repeat that many times). Really? There's no place for pro-life advocates? For sanctity of marriage advocates? For gun rights advocates? For strong border advocates? For strong national security advocates? You may disagree, but their positions are entirely valid and reasonable.

That's why I supported Trump from the beginning. The protests prove me right.

The sooner they realize that they're part of the problem, the sooner the nation can begin to come together.

[ExGingi]

Was having a thought this morning: Who would Saban have at his forum next year, now that Peres is gone, and Obama and the Clintons are out of power.

[Super Speed]

Michelle 2024?

I'll put money on Michelle and Booker within next 2 cycles

[JTZ]

I'll put money on Michelle and Booker within next 2 cycles

Michelle has my vote unless Ivanka runs. 

[good sam]

There's some speculation that Jared might be appointed chief of staff.

[aygart]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/11/10/the-13-most-amazing-things-in-the-2016-exit-poll/

13. People didn't think Trump lost the debates as badly as I did

I named Clinton the winner in each of three presidential debates — and I didn't think any of the three were particularly close. Lots of people who voted Tuesday did not agree with me. Among the 64 percent who said the debates were an “important” part of their vote for president, Clinton won by a narrow 50 percent to 47 percent margin over Trump. Of the 82 percent of people who said the debates were a “factor” in their decision for president, Trump took 50 percent to 47 percent for Clinton.


More exit poll data:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/2016-election/exit-polls/

[JTZ]

There's some speculation that Jared might be appointed chief of staff.

Isn't he in prison?

[Mordyk]

The problem that we're facing now is not systematic and widespread racism (though racism remains a problem). The problem we have now is the arrogance and ignorance of the liberal elitist class. The media is just one manifestation of it. Hollywood is another. So is the Washington-type political class, and so are universities.

I experienced it myself. Express a conservative viewpoint in class and everybody, professors and classmates, will look at you like a creature of lower intelligence. They cannot fathom how you can have attended the same university as they, yet not have become enlightened as they.

In a Health Law class, we were shown a documentary on the morality of euthanasia. I was beside myself at how my fellow orthodox classmates then publicly announced how the film had changed their viewpoint on the matter. I don't know whether they were being honest, but none would dare express an opposing viewpoint.

In a Not-For-Profit class, a professor illustrated how broad the not-for-profit laws are by giving extreme examples, which were met by resounding laughter, that the laws may even apply to organizations dedicated to the study of Creationism or the non-existence of global warming.

You were scoffed at if you refused to sign whatever petition students were peddling for LGBT rights. You were mocked if you disagreed with the student groups raising awareness for the victims of Israeli aggression. You were scorned if you had negative opinions on the Occupy Wall Street protesters.

What Will Rahn expressed with respect to the media exists in the entire elitist class. That's why young people in liberal cities across the country are protesting. They thought that they could handle defeat theoretically, before it became a reality. But as it turned out, they cannot. The outcome was wrong, they say, even if it may have been the will of the majority (this would not be any different if Trump had won the popular vote). They know better because they're enlightened. The poorly educated of middle America should not get a say, because they don't know what's best even for themselves.

Social and legal policy differences are healthy for a nation. But they become divisive when the rhetoric on one side becomes that "there is no place in this country" for the opinions of the other (I put that in quotes because we've heard the Democratic candidate repeat that many times). Really? There's no place for pro-life advocates? For sanctity of marriage advocates? For gun rights advocates? For strong border advocates? For strong national security advocates? You may disagree, but their positions are entirely valid and reasonable.

That's why I supported Trump from the beginning. The protests prove me right.

The sooner they realize that they're part of the problem, the sooner the nation can begin to come together.

well said! also look at all ill-informed celebrities sticking their nose into this. and they all complain that their parents voted for trump but they want hillary.

[Boruch999]

I find making memes out of the Rebbe to be inappropriate.

Dan, I believe you should incorporate this into your policy.

+1

[JTZ]

and they all complain that their parents voted for trump but they want hillary.

Once you figure this one out then you will have a better understanding.

[Mordyk]

Once you figure this one out then you will have a better understanding.

huh? values?

[zale]

The sooner they realize that they're part of the problem, the sooner the nation can begin to come together.

How do you expect them to realize this?

[good sam]

Isn't he in prison?

Lol

[good sam]

How do you expect them to realize this?

If Hillary had been elected, never. But with Trump, there's the possibility that they come to the realization that he's not so bad after all. That might begin to alter their mindset.

[good sam]

Kellyanne Conway confirms that she's been offered a position. Wonder which.

[JTZ]

But with Trump, there's the possibility that they come to the realization that he's not so bad after all. That might begin to alter their mindset.

Like Obama's election did for the R's?

[JTZ]

Kellyanne Conway confirms that she's been offered a position. Wonder which.

I am not going to answer that one.

[zale]

If Hillary had been elected, never. But with Trump, there's the possibility that they come to the realization that he's not so bad after all. That might begin to alter their mindset.

The mindset of the narcissistic liberal elite are set by the media. They don't have individual thought process.