US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread

[JTZ]

I promise I was waiting for you to bring up Bill Clinton.

You are hilariously predictable and a terrible debater.
Just give up with your word game arguments that border on trolling.

That is your comeback? He claims "I don’t know anything about David Duke" and your video proved he knew all about DD for years. So your great debate answer is I am trolling?

[JTZ]

JTZ probably also thinks "locker room banter" only takes place in locker rooms.

Locker room banter is a great indication of the persons real values. Someday when you are older you might understand that.

[good sam]

Scott Adams will be on CNN with Jake Tapper today. He really made a name for himself.

[yuneeq]

That is your comeback? He claims "I don’t know anything about David Duke" and your video proved he knew all about DD for years. So your great debate answer is I am trolling?

My answer is that you keep changing your arguments and can't keep up with your rhetoric (look up the word on google).
First it's that Trump must like Dukes endorsement. Then it's that Trump doesn't know who Duke is.
Then it's that Trump obviously wasn't exaggerating when he said he doesn't know anything about Duke despite calling him out as a racist and bigot repeatedly over the years. And if he's not exaggerating he must be a huge liar (to gain what, exactly?).

If that's all what gets you upset about Trump you are more pro-Trump then anyone I know.

[Dawie]

Line of the day in my office from college intern
"I'm going to keep voting Democrat till i can afford not to..."

[JTZ]

If that's all what gets you upset about Trump you are more pro-Trump then anyone I know.

No there is a major list by numerous members here what is wrong with Trump. He is a vile man and for some reason those that voted for him need a justification in their own mind instead of accepting the facts. You want to play word games the he makes indecent comments about women but that he is not belittling them.

[JTZ]

My answer is that you keep changing your arguments and can't keep up with your rhetoric (look up the word on google).
First it's that Trump must like Dukes endorsement.

OK lets take this one at a time. Where did I say this?
Put up or shut up!!!

[aygart]

Why do you think that he would say he doesn't know about Duke instead of just separating himself from him like he did 100 times just days and weeks before?

[JTZ]

Why do you think that he would say he doesn't know about Duke instead of just separating himself from him like he did 100 times just days and weeks before?

Because he is a compulsive liar. This is the only guy who seen "thousands and thousands" of Muslims celebrating in the street after 911.

[ExGingi]

Did I remember his exact quote, no. You are all playing word games. I think you went to the Bill Clinton school of what is "is".
He lied and your video proves it. That is the fact.

I refer you back to Peter Thiel's brief explanation regarding taking Trump literally but not seriously, vs taking him seriously but not literally.

The way Trump speaks or conducts might not be how you or I might ever do. Nor how we would expect anyone in our families to. But once you get passed his style, which means you are not expected to take his words literally, but rather read the overall meaning of what he's saying, then you'll see that he's not that bad at all (on the issues that bother you).

[JTZ]

I refer you back to Peter Thiel's brief explanation regarding taking Trump literally but not seriously, vs taking him seriously but not literally.

The way Trump speaks or conducts might not be how you or I might ever do. Nor how we would expect anyone in our families to. But once you get passed his style, which means you are not expected to take his words literally, but rather read the overall meaning of what he's saying, then you'll see that he's not that bad at all (on the issues that bother you).

Ok fair enough. When he says grab a women by you know what please explain the overall meaning to this naïve person.

[aygart]

Because he is a compulsive liar. This is the only guy who seen "thousands and thousands" of Muslims celebrating in the street after 911.

What did he claim he meant when he said it about Duke?
It is called hyperbole

I refer you back to Peter Thiel's brief explanation regarding taking Trump literally but not seriously, vs taking him seriously but not literally.

The way Trump speaks or conducts might not be how you or I might ever do. Nor how we would expect anyone in our families to. But once you get passed his style, which means you are not expected to take his words literally, but rather read the overall meaning of what he's saying, then you'll see that he's not that bad at all (on the issues that bother you).

+1

[aygart]

Ok fair enough. When he says grab a women by you know what please explain the overall meaning to this naïve person.

That he has a mouth like a toilet.

[JTZ]

That he has a mouth like a toilet.

So he didn't mean it or never done it?

[JTZ]

What did he claim he meant when he said it about Duke?

Not sure but if IRCC the next day he said he didn't hear the question clearly because of his earpiece.

[aygart]

So he didn't mean it or never done it?

Maybe he did maybe he didn't. We definitely won't know from his saying that.

[JTZ]

Maybe he did maybe he didn't. We definitely won't know from his saying that.

You ever been in situations when talk like this is going on?

[aygart]

You ever been in situations when talk like this is going on?

no but that is at least partially due to religious and cultural reasons. Even if there was a group speaking this way they would likely feel self consious and stop once I walked in. I would guess that in such a conversation exaggeration is rampant.

[JTZ]

no but that is at least partially due to religious and cultural reasons. Even if there was a group speaking this way they would likely feel self consious and stop once I walked in.

You should be grateful for your religion. Let me give you a little insight. If he was a high school kid it could be explained away as young and foolish. He is a grown man. I know many of the same types that make these remarks. It does not matter if they are true or not it shows they have no respect for women.

[aygart]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0ahUKEwj-qaXxvaHQAhUCzoMKHVGMBAgQqUMIITAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wsj.com%2Farticles%2Fmistaken-identity-politics-1478888487&usg=AFQjCNEY-NkjFsSzjFvas3sUPxo9Padsqg&sig2=jEhj_oJfosfnKpA46XUKFw&cad=rjt

About H's intentional abandonment of Catholics etc.

One quotable quote:
Donald Trump is president-elect, and Michael Moore is a voice of reason on the left. It’s a new world.