US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread

[yoohoo]

Don't blame him,  and would do the same.  But it comes off as opportunistic, especially the week of the convention

my guess is someone from the democrat side convinced him to speak...

[aygart]

Don't blame him,  and would do the same.  But it comes off as opportunistic, especially the week of the convention

Of course it is oppotunistic. That is everything this guy has done. If he felt so guilty about writing for Trump he would not have used it all these years.

[Dan]

Don't blame him,  and would do the same.  But it comes off as opportunistic, especially the week of the convention

It is and I don't love the timing. But it all feels true.

Of course it is oppotunistic. That is everything this guy has done. If he felt so guilty about writing for Trump he would not have used it all these years.

Meh. He made millions without guilt and crossing Donald as 99% of people would have in that situation. The guilt comes now that this man is running for the top office in the world.
I just don't like it coming now rather than 4 months ago.

[aygart]

It is and I don't love the timing. But it all feels true.
Meh. He made millions without guilt and crossing Donald as 99% of people would have in that situation. The guilt comes now that this man is running for the top office in the world.
I just don't like it coming now rather than 4 months ago.

The guy's main beef with Trump is because he is a liberal. He says so right at the beginning.

Schwartz thought it over for several weeks. He knew that he would be making a Faustian bargain. A lifelong liberal, he was hardly an admirer of Trump’s ruthless and single-minded pursuit of profit. “It was one of a number of times in my life when I was divided between the Devil and the higher side,” he told me. He had grown up in a bourgeois, intellectual family in Manhattan, and had attended élite private schools, but he was not as wealthy as some of his classmates—and, unlike many of them, he had no trust fund. “I grew up privileged,” he said. “But my parents made it clear: ‘You’re on your own.’ ” Around the time Trump made his offer, Schwartz’s wife, Deborah Pines, became pregnant with their second daughter, and he worried that the family wouldn’t fit into their Manhattan apartment, whose mortgage was already too high. “I was overly worried about money,” Schwartz said. “I thought money would keep me safe and secure—or that was my rationalization.” At the same time, he knew that if he took Trump’s money and adopted Trump’s voice his journalism career would be badly damaged. His heroes were such literary nonfiction writers as Tom Wolfe, John McPhee, and David Halberstam. Being a ghostwriter was hackwork. In the end, though, Schwartz had his price. He told Trump that if he would give him half the advance and half the book’s royalties he’d take the job.
Such terms are unusually generous for a ghostwriter. Trump, despite having a reputation as a tough negotiator, agreed on the spot. “It was a huge windfall,” Schwartz recalls. “But I knew I was selling out. Literally, the term was invented to describe what I did.” Soon Spy was calling him “former journalist Tony Schwartz.”

He claims to have felt alienated etc from the offset.

Not long after the discussion of the party bills, Trump approached Schwartz about writing a sequel, for which Trump had been offered a seven-figure advance. This time, however, he offered Schwartz only a third of the profits. He pointed out that, because the advance was much bigger, the payout would be, too. But Schwartz said no. Feeling deeply alienated, he instead wrote a book called “What Really Matters,” about the search for meaning in life. After working with Trump, Schwartz writes, he felt a “gnawing emptiness” and became a “seeker,” longing to “be connected to something timeless and essential, more real.”

Don't go profiting off it and only now suddenly speak up. I have no issue with him using his affiliation with Trump for profit but to keep at it for all the years and then suddenly because he may become president decide that you really couldn't ever stand him is ridiculous.

[Dan]

The guy's main beef with Trump is because he is a liberal. He says so right at the beginning.

editing in process.

Doesn't change what he says about the guys character that falls in line and confirms a lot of what we suspect.

[aygart]

Doesn't change what he says about the guys character that falls in line and confirms a lot of what we suspect.

but tells us nothing new.

[Dan]

but tells us nothing new.

Just another confirmation that he's not worthy of the office. Not that Hillary is either. Pick your poison.

Don't go profiting off it and only now suddenly speak up. I have no issue with him using his affiliation with Trump for profit but to keep at it for all the years and then suddenly because he may become president decide that you really couldn't ever stand him is ridiculous.

As if you would play it much differently in his shoes.

[aygart]

Just another confirmation that he's not worthy of the office. Not that Hillary is either. Pick your poison.

I fully agree that he is not worthy of the office and have said similar things many times. He was by no mean my choice for the R nomination. The fact is that he IS the nominee and I cannot see any way in which he is not infinitely better than Hillary. What are you afraid of-That he will control the US nukes? With Hillary Iran will control nukes. Go through item by item and there is nothing on which Hillary wins.

As if you would play it much differently in his shoes.

If I really abhorred him all the years I can't imagine myself  making myself look like buddies with him. If I did not really abhor him so much I cannot see myself coming out like this. My guess is that he does not thinkl as poorly of Trump as he makes it sound and is blinded by his liberalism

[Dan]

Gimme a break. Many gvir situations end up with people taking from someone they abhor and yet say nothing for years.

[elit]

Gimme a break. Many gvir situations end up with people taking from someone they abhor and yet say nothing for years.

Problem is the whole tone of the article is how much he detested him and it went against everything he believes but he kept his mouth shut and took week the money until the new yorker Gave him more money .... although prob most of the article is true he ends up sounding like a nasuating self-righteous liberal with an agenda

[aygart]

Problem is the whole tone of the article is how much he detested him and it went against everything he believes but he kept his mouth shut and took week the money until the new yorker Gave him more money .... although prob most of the article is true he ends up sounding like a nasuating self-righteous liberal with an agenda

+1

[Dan]

Problem is the whole tone of the article is how much he detested him and it went against everything he believes but he kept his mouth shut and took week the money until the new yorker Gave him more money .... although prob most of the article is true he ends up sounding like a nasuating self-righteous liberal with an agenda

Noch a mohl.
If someone you detested gave you $$$$$$ every year, would you turn it down because you abhor him?
Or would you take the money and then let the world know the truth when you feel that the world needs to know for its own good?

[aygart]

Noch a mohl.
If someone you detested gave you $$$$$$ every year, would you turn it down because you abhor him?
Or would you take the money and then let the world know the truth when you feel that the world needs to know for its own good?

The difference is that he actively presented himself as a Trump guy.

[elit]

Noch a mohl.
If someone you detested gave you $$$$$$ every year, would you turn it down because you abhor him?
Or would you take the money and then let the world know the truth when you feel that the world needs to know for its own good?

He just doesn't sound genuine. not saying I would have done differently

[Dan]

The timing is disingenuous, but most of the content rings true IMHO.

[aygart]

The timing is disingenuous, but most of the content rings true IMHO.

Confirmation bias

[yoruel]

His suits dont fit properly.

[Achas Veachas]

[thaber]

And Melania plagiarizes Michelle,  just when you thought we've seen the worst

[good sam]

And Melania plagiarizes Michelle,  just when you thought we've seen the worst

Link?