Author Topic: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread (Read 3851270 times)

cf · « **Reply #7800 on:** November 13, 2016, 06:11:09 PM »

Quote from: JTZ on November 13, 2016, 05:20:29 PM

Try and look at it from their perspective. Not if they are right or wrong. Women fear there right to choose is threatened. Illegal immigrants fear getting deported. Gays fear their right to marry will be taken away. Muslims fear it will be open season on them. Millions fear their healthcare will be taken away and the list goes on. You don't think these are passionate enough issues to protest about?

Thanks to the media who totally exaggerated what trump said.
Did you see trump with the lgbt flag? Probably not. The media made sure not to make a big deal out of it.

ilherman · « **Reply #7801 on:** November 13, 2016, 06:15:21 PM »

Quote from: aygart on November 13, 2016, 06:10:10 PM

And therefore?

Nothing at all. He argued that there are reasons why people are protesting and I am saying that these kind of reasoning always existed and still there were no protesting.

ExGingi · « **Reply #7802 on:** November 13, 2016, 06:26:56 PM »

Here are my 2 cents as to the people sponsoring these protests.

They know Trump is not a conservative by any stretch of the imagination. At best, they might define him as a master pragmatists. As such, they are trying to influence the eventual outcome.

I consider myself a conservative. However, I try to also be very realistic. I know that there is no way we are deporting 11 million illegals. As a matter of fact, the US (to a lesser degree than other western nations, but it still does) needs positive immigration.

I also know that Obamacare cannot be repealed with the stroke of a pen (and no-one can claim that I have anything positive to say about it

) we had a problem, and we now have a bigger problem. It will not be solved overnight.

I fear Muslim extremism, and think we should be tough with them, but I do realize that certain rhetorric could actually strengthen them.

The sponsors of these protests understand that Trump doesn't literally mean to do any of the big mantras he's been elected on. They KNOW there will be compromise, they are trying to tip the scale more towards their own world view. The actual protesters are either extremely naive, or feel it's worth it for whatever pay they are getting (which might just be going to some organizers).

Moshe123 · « **Reply #7803 on:** November 13, 2016, 07:02:22 PM »

Bannon near anything in the WH is downright scary.
If he's not an anti-Semite, I don't know who is.

aygart · « **Reply #7804 on:** November 13, 2016, 07:06:43 PM »

Quote from: Moshe123 on November 13, 2016, 07:02:22 PM

Bannon near anything in the WH is downright scary.
If he's not an anti-Semite, I don't know who is.

Is there a source for that other than an ex as part of divorce proceedings?

zale · « **Reply #7805 on:** November 13, 2016, 07:18:57 PM »

Quote from: Moshe123 on November 13, 2016, 07:02:22 PM

Bannon near anything in the WH is downright scary.
If he's not an anti-Semite, I don't know who is.

Complete claptrap. His ex-wife said it so it's true?

Wait, and you are so convinced of his ruthless anti-Semitism that if he is not, you don't know who is?

You realize the guy presides over the most pro-Israel website on the internet? You know that the alt-right and KKK refer to it as "kikebart"?

zale · « **Reply #7806 on:** November 13, 2016, 07:21:56 PM »

Quote from: aygart on November 13, 2016, 07:06:43 PM

Is there a source for that other than an ex as part of divorce proceedings?

Yes, there is. The Liberal media.

cf · « **Reply #7807 on:** November 13, 2016, 07:25:55 PM »

Quote from: Moshe123 on November 13, 2016, 07:02:22 PM

Bannon near anything in the WH is downright scary.
If he's not an anti-Semite, I don't know who is.

https://mobile.twitter.com/southsalem/status/797950645072445440

thaber · « **Reply #7808 on:** November 13, 2016, 07:52:16 PM »

I don't know where they get it from, but I call this scare tactics

Moshe123 · « **Reply #7809 on:** November 13, 2016, 07:53:13 PM »

You guys forget the Ben Shapiro story, or all the anti-semitic articles that have appeared on Breitbart since Andrew passed?

zale · « **Reply #7810 on:** November 13, 2016, 07:56:53 PM »

Quote from: Moshe123 on November 13, 2016, 07:53:13 PM

You guys forget the Ben Shapiro story, or all the anti-semitic articles that have appeared on Breitbart since Andrew passed?

The alleged "anti-Semitic articles" are baloney. The "Renegade Jew" article was written by a Jewish columnist.

Ben Shapiro had a falling-out with Breitbart. Breitbart chose to cheerlead Trump's campaign and refused to rebuke the Trump campaign when Cory Lewandowski was aggressive with a young Breitbart reporter. Ben Shapiro decided that he can't work for such a biased "news agency" and decided to leave.

Ben moved on to found The Daily Wire, and has been a bitter enemy of Bannon ever since. That young reporter, Michelle Fields, became a turncoat and joined the Huffington Post. Ben spent the entire year criticizing both, Trump and Clinton.

I like Ben, but I believe he is behind the smear on Bannon.

JTZ · « **Reply #7811 on:** November 13, 2016, 07:59:17 PM »

Quote from: ilherman on November 13, 2016, 06:04:51 PM

Yah, but you remember when Obama won? Did you see the right protest?

The right is not big on protests

good sam · « **Reply #7812 on:** November 13, 2016, 08:12:27 PM »

Quote from: JTZ on November 13, 2016, 07:59:17 PM

The right is not big on protests

Low energy.

aygart · « **Reply #7813 on:** November 13, 2016, 08:21:31 PM »

Oct 2012 vs. Nov 2016

"All process arguments are insincere including this one."

aygart · « **Reply #7814 on:** November 13, 2016, 08:22:28 PM »

Quote from: Moshe123 on November 13, 2016, 07:53:13 PM

You guys forget the Ben Shapiro story, or all the anti-semitic articles that have appeared on Breitbart since Andrew passed?

I never knew them since I don't really read Breitbart. Can you link to some of the more egregious ones?

Moshe123 · « **Reply #7815 on:** November 13, 2016, 08:29:29 PM »

Quote from: aygart on November 13, 2016, 08:22:28 PM

I never knew them since I don't really read Breitbart. Can you link to some of the more egregious ones?

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/09/27/anne-applebaums-russian-style-disinformation-offensive-msm-vs-anti-globalist-right-will-people/

Quote

And hell hath no fury like a Polish, Jewish, American elitist scorned.

This was widely reported at the time. Just a tiny example.

gozalim · « **Reply #7816 on:** November 13, 2016, 08:35:31 PM »

Even if he is not himself anti semetic, his appointment is a nod to all the alt-right deplorables to crawl out of their anti semetic holes.

And it also validates the other anti semites; progressive left, BLM, et al

aygart · « **Reply #7817 on:** November 13, 2016, 08:38:36 PM »

Quote from: Moshe123 on November 13, 2016, 08:29:29 PM

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/09/27/anne-applebaums-russian-style-disinformation-offensive-msm-vs-anti-globalist-right-will-people/

This was widely reported at the time. Just a tiny example.

That is the whole thing? Is he anti American and Anti Polish too?

aygart · « **Reply #7818 on:** November 13, 2016, 08:38:54 PM »

Quote from: gozalim on November 13, 2016, 08:35:31 PM

Even if he is not himself anti semetic, his appointment is a nod to all the alt-right deplorables to crawl out of their anti semetic holes.

And it also validates the other anti semites; progressive left, BLM, et al

Only dogs hear dog whistles.

aygart · « **Reply #7819 on:** November 13, 2016, 08:43:53 PM »

http://regated.com/2016/11/no-trump-is-not-hitler/

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