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Trump walks in a room.

1. Moshe123 shoots at him because he is pure evil, 2. ilherman+hachover jump in front of the bullets because Trump is our savior. 3. aygart tackles Moshe123 because Trump is better than HRC, 4. but Baruch can't stand Trump so he tells aygart he's crazy and Trump is a madman. 5. ExGingi would like to point out that who cares what he is, all that matters is the supreme court nominations. 6. Dan and others aren't really sure how this makes them feel plus they don't really want to drink poison. 7. Spoiler alert: Moshe123's gun was empty, it was just a blank.

And Freddie is in the back of the room just cooking his cholent. Until he announces that there are TWO menu choices, Pareve Cholent or Vegetable Lasagna. While etech0 figured out that they are both poisoned.


Repeat x100.

And then Hilary walks into the room with the most confidence a candidate has had in recent history. She is so confident that she eats both the Pareve Cholent and Vegetable Lasagna. Everyone is the room is aghast, they don't know how this happened, could it be Comey is behind this poisoning or was it that her Obamacare premiums were to high to get her the help she needed.

Everyone stared as she choked and was cast into oblivion on November, 8, 2016 the last day she was heard from in the public eye.

Moshe123, ilherman, hachover, Baruch, ExGingi, Dan, Freddie, etech0, and the rest of America are in total shock and hope that so long as Trump doesn't eat any Pareve Cholent and Vegetable Lasagna and stays true to his supreme court nominees this may be the greatest thing to happen since the CSR and GC's.

But remember this may be the beginning of the end...

P.S. Thanks to cognitive dissonance aygart, Michael Moore, and Scott Adams knew the whole time that Trump could win, unfortunately for JTZ he may be off DDF for the next 4 years due to his mandatory 3 times daily consumption of CROW!

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Sub notes:

Nov 8 : Time to edit the wiki. Biggest upset in American History according to Michael Isikoff.


http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=57647.0

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5952.html
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump?lang=en
http://blog.dilbert.com/
http://fivethirtyeight.com/
All Political Ads - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvuOH0oJFwElBgRKz-eMlLw

As things turns out, the most prescient view on this election was that of Michael Moore! Though Scott Adams is also claiming a high view level of prescience.


Poll

Who are you voting for?

Clinton
12 (10.3%)
Trump
67 (57.3%)
Johnson
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Other (Write in)
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I don't vote in general and won't be voting this year
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I do vote in general, but won't be this year
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Total Members Voted: 117

Author Topic: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread  (Read 3771619 times)

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8060 on: November 16, 2016, 10:27:52 AM »
Do you think Trump did that?

Yes. Since that's what he said he did and that is what others said he did to them.
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8061 on: November 16, 2016, 10:28:52 AM »
Let's do this a different way.

If anyone in the entire world told you what Trump told Bush, you would say they're full of it, or at least, they're exaggerating.

Trump says it and you accept it as gospel.

Why?

(I know the answer.)
I never said he did that. (even though I do believe he did, because over 10 women said he did). Just don't classify that conversation as objectifying. He bragged about molesting women. "Did he do it?", is irrelevant. Bragging about molesting (whether it was false bragging or not) is worse than just "objectifying".

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8062 on: November 16, 2016, 10:29:39 AM »
If anyone in the entire world told you what Trump told Bush, you would say they're full of it, or at least, they're exaggerating.
If I had a dollar every time I heard that type of stuff I would have more than I do from MSing.  ;)
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8063 on: November 16, 2016, 10:32:17 AM »
One of us is experiencing cognitive dissonance. Here's why I think it's you.

He said "they let you do it." The imagery I get from that is that, as a famous person, he can be more forward and take more risks than other people because he's pretty sure he won't be rejected. I don't see any indication that, if he does get rejected by a woman, he would continue touching her against her will.

Even the women who've come forward say he touched them "without permission." Most socially normal people don't ask permission first. They look for signals. He interprets signals more often than regular people because he gets them more often than regular people.

I'm warning you to stop. Just stop. You don't have to defend sexual assault to explain why you support Trump. You can support Trump for any reason you want. Even just for the hell of it. I'm fine with that. But for the love of G-d, please do not force yourself to rationalize sexual assault. Walk away from this one.

"They let you do it" should send chills down the spine of anyone with a mother or a daughter or a sister or a wife. "They let you do it" is a sentiment completely lacking the slightest comprehension of the emotions of another human being. It doesn't matter if it's wealth, power, or fame, or a knife to your throat, "They let you do it" is not a defense against being labeled a total user but the very definition of it. Can you not see that? "They let you do it" is the defense of every child molester who grooms his victims rather than bashing them in the face and raping them. "They let you do it" is the defense of every frat boy who had sex with a drunk girl. "They let you do it" is the defense of every producer in Hollywood who uses aspiring actors for sex.

Sorry to be so blunt.

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8064 on: November 16, 2016, 10:33:37 AM »
I'm warning you to stop. Just stop. You don't have to defend sexual assault to explain why you support Trump. You can support Trump for any reason you want. Even just for the hell of it. I'm fine with that. But for the love of G-d, please do not force yourself to rationalize sexual assault. Walk away from this one.

"They let you do it" should send chills down the spine of anyone with a mother or a daughter or a sister or a wife. "They let you do it" is a sentiment completely lacking the slightest comprehension of the emotions of another human being. It doesn't matter if it's wealth, power, or fame, or a knife to your throat, "They let you do it" is not a defense against being labeled a total user but the very definition of it. Can you not see that? "They let you do it" is the defense of every child molester who grooms his victims rather than bashing them in the face and raping them. "They let you do it" is the defense of every frat boy who had sex with a drunk girl. "They let you do it" is the defense of every producer in Hollywood who uses aspiring actors for sex.

Sorry to be so blunt.

I can't like this post enough. As usual, Freddie, good job explaining it as it is
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8065 on: November 16, 2016, 10:34:52 AM »
"They let you do it" should send chills down the spine of anyone with a mother or a daughter or a sister or a wife.
Just think how it affects someone that has all four? JJ asked me why I keep harping on the women comments. Here is your answer!!!
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8066 on: November 16, 2016, 10:37:36 AM »
Just think how it affects someone that has all four? JJ asked me why I keep harping on the women comments. Here is your answer!!!

I for one appreciate that there is someone in this thread who isn't willing to let this drop
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8067 on: November 16, 2016, 10:43:14 AM »
I for one appreciate that there is someone in this thread who isn't willing to let this drop
It has been said many times in this thread if you voted for Trump that is your business as to why. Just don't try and justify his comments against women. At best you are going to look foolish and at worst some are going to believe you think the same way as Trump when it comes to women.
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8068 on: November 16, 2016, 10:48:10 AM »
I'm warning you to stop. Just stop. You don't have to defend sexual assault to explain why you support Trump. You can support Trump for any reason you want. Even just for the hell of it. I'm fine with that. But for the love of G-d, please do not force yourself to rationalize sexual assault. Walk away from this one.

"They let you do it" should send chills down the spine of anyone with a mother or a daughter or a sister or a wife. "They let you do it" is a sentiment completely lacking the slightest comprehension of the emotions of another human being. It doesn't matter if it's wealth, power, or fame, or a knife to your throat, "They let you do it" is not a defense against being labeled a total user but the very definition of it. Can you not see that? "They let you do it" is the defense of every child molester who grooms his victims rather than bashing them in the face and raping them. "They let you do it" is the defense of every frat boy who had sex with a drunk girl. "They let you do it" is the defense of every producer in Hollywood who uses aspiring actors for sex.

Sorry to be so blunt.
I'll stop because I think you might be a better persuader than I
If you don't care why would you comment?
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8069 on: November 16, 2016, 10:50:07 AM »
It has been said many times in this thread if you voted for Trump that is your business as to why. Just don't try and justify his comments against women. At best you are going to look foolish and at worst some are going to believe you think the same way as Trump when it comes to women.
There you go again with the word justify.
If you don't care why would you comment?
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8070 on: November 16, 2016, 10:55:39 AM »
There you go again with the word justify.
Call it what ever you want but don't try and do it.  :P
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8071 on: November 16, 2016, 10:55:44 AM »
Just think how it affects someone that has all four? JJ asked me why I keep harping on the women comments. Here is your answer!!!

I would also add that if you do have all four then just purely from a statistical standpoint the odds are that you know and love someone who has been the victim of some form of sexual abuse. Of course, you may be the statistical anomaly (and I know that many in the frum community cling to the belief that they are) but once you know even more than four women the likelihood goes up and up.

Just keep that in mind at the next family event, if it's not your sister, then it's your aunt or your cousin, or your bubbe, or your rebbetzin. Be careful how you talk in front of them. They're busy trying to raise our children. It makes it hard for them to focus on that when they hear people who are supposed to care for them unknowingly taking the side of their abuser.

Every time a person quotes "they let you do it" as an excuse, he may as well be excepting a high-five from a guy who just stole a piece of a woman's soul by touching her body in a way that she didn't want it to be touched.

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8072 on: November 16, 2016, 10:56:29 AM »
I'll stop because I think you might be a better persuader than I

Good move.  :)

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8073 on: November 16, 2016, 10:56:52 AM »
There you go again with the word justify.
I think you are the one suffering from CD on this count. I have explained my vote for Trump despite his being a lowlife many times here. I don't convince myself he is not a lowlife. I simply think that he would be better than any alternative considering how much either one's transgressions would affect their ability to be President.
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8074 on: November 16, 2016, 10:57:41 AM »
I would also add that if you do have all four then just purely from a statistical standpoint the odds are that you know and love someone who has been the victim of some form of sexual abuse.
Do you always have to be right?  >:(  :'(
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8075 on: November 16, 2016, 10:59:49 AM »
I think you are the one suffering from CD on this count. I have explained my vote for Trump despite his being a lowlife many times here. I don't convince myself he is not a lowlife. I simply think that he would be better than any alternative considering how much either one's transgressions would affect their ability to be President.
I included objectification of women in the Fact category. I even agree with JTZ's definition of objectification. I don't argue that he's not a lowlife.
If you don't care why would you comment?
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8076 on: November 16, 2016, 11:02:12 AM »
I included objectification of women in the Fact category. I even agree with JTZ's definition of objectification. I don't argue that he's not a lowlife.
Seems we are all on the same page with the women issue. How many more on your list?  :)
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8077 on: November 16, 2016, 11:02:44 AM »
I'm warning you to stop. Just stop. You don't have to defend sexual assault to explain why you support Trump. You can support Trump for any reason you want. Even just for the hell of it. I'm fine with that. But for the love of G-d, please do not force yourself to rationalize sexual assault. Walk away from this one.

"They let you do it" should send chills down the spine of anyone with a mother or a daughter or a sister or a wife. "They let you do it" is a sentiment completely lacking the slightest comprehension of the emotions of another human being. It doesn't matter if it's wealth, power, or fame, or a knife to your throat, "They let you do it" is not a defense against being labeled a total user but the very definition of it. Can you not see that? "They let you do it" is the defense of every child molester who grooms his victims rather than bashing them in the face and raping them. "They let you do it" is the defense of every frat boy who had sex with a drunk girl. "They let you do it" is the defense of every producer in Hollywood who uses aspiring actors for sex.

Sorry to be so blunt.

Thank you. Just when I was about to lose my mind.

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8078 on: November 16, 2016, 11:08:40 AM »
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8079 on: November 16, 2016, 11:11:24 AM »
Feelings don't care about your facts