Author Topic: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread (Read 3862910 times)

JTZ · « **Reply #920 on:** July 21, 2016, 08:00:05 AM »

Trump has done a lot of (insert your own word) so far in this election. In this case he has taken the high road and Cruz has taken the low road. It only shows what I have been saying from the beginning. He is a liar and a phony.

Yehuda57 · « **Reply #921 on:** July 21, 2016, 08:18:46 AM »

Quote from: JTZ on July 21, 2016, 08:00:05 AM

Trump has done a lot of (insert your own word) so far in this election. In this case he has taken the high road and Cruz has taken the low road. It only shows what I have been saying from the beginning. He is a liar and a phony.

This is some "high road" - allowing Cruz to take the news cycle and sacrifice a "convention bump" just so you can try humiliate an adversary?

It is not only babyish and vindictive, it's bad politics.

JTZ · « **Reply #922 on:** July 21, 2016, 08:32:17 AM »

Quote from: Yehuda57 on July 21, 2016, 08:18:46 AM

This is some "high road" - allowing Cruz to take the news cycle and sacrifice a "convention bump" just so you can try humiliate an adversary?

It is not only babyish and vindictive, it's bad politics.

Trump could have not allowed him to speak but he didn't. Cruz is meaningless and committed political suicide. He can never be trusted again.

jj1000 · « **Reply #923 on:** July 21, 2016, 08:34:25 AM »

Quote from: JTZ on July 20, 2016, 10:38:56 PM

Another sore loser like Kasich. Get over it!

I think it's a great move for Kasich, you have the whole republican party endorsing one person who is a total wild card if he gets elected and is terrible in 4 years from now he gets to say the more gratifying I told you so.

Just because Trump won his party's nomination I don't see why that means he has to endorse a candidate he doesn't like. Seems like an honest person who can stand by his convictions even when his party is losing theirs.

Dan · « **Reply #924 on:** July 21, 2016, 08:38:52 AM »

Apparently standing by your convictions now makes you a loser. Sad!

Moshe123 · « **Reply #925 on:** July 21, 2016, 08:49:01 AM »

To me Donald Trump is David Duke.

How the heck do you want someone to endorse him?

JTZ · « **Reply #926 on:** July 21, 2016, 08:52:51 AM »

Quote from: Dan on July 21, 2016, 08:38:52 AM

Apparently standing by your convictions now makes you a loser. Sad!

Going back on your pledge makes you one.

jj1000 · « **Reply #927 on:** July 21, 2016, 08:53:51 AM »

Quote from: JTZ on July 21, 2016, 08:52:51 AM

Going back on your pledge makes you one.

Oh please Trump was also going back on his before he clinched the nomination. And new facts came up since the pledge this is politics if everyone is a loser for going back on a pledge they are all losers what's special about calling Kasich out on it?

JTZ · « **Reply #928 on:** July 21, 2016, 08:54:27 AM »

Quote from: Moshe123 on July 21, 2016, 08:49:01 AM

How the heck do you want someone to endorse him?

The only way I can see not endorsing him is if you want him to lose which means you want HRC to win.

JTZ · « **Reply #929 on:** July 21, 2016, 08:57:11 AM »

Quote from: jj1000 on July 21, 2016, 08:53:51 AM

Oh please Trump was also going back on his before he clinched the nomination. And new facts came up since the pledge this is politics if everyone is a loser for going back on a pledge they are all losers what's special about calling Kasich out on it?

Do you see me defending Trump.

Hay officer that guy was speeding worst then me. Why didn't you give him a ticket. You were speeding and what he was doing does not change that fact.

Dan · « **Reply #930 on:** July 21, 2016, 08:57:55 AM »

Quote from: JTZ on July 21, 2016, 08:52:51 AM

Going back on your pledge makes you one.

And what if he's said vile things after that point that you strongly disagree with?
Still a loser?

ExGingi · « **Reply #931 on:** July 21, 2016, 09:07:01 AM »

Quote from: Dan on July 21, 2016, 08:57:55 AM

And what if he's said vile things after that point that you strongly disagree with?
Still a loser?

He didn't have to speak at the convention.

There's a lot not to like about Trump, but Pence pointed out what I've been saying all along: it's all about SCOTUS nominations!

I wonder what the Joseph/sheep lover and Cruz would say if put into a corner about this.

If HRC gets elected, Bader-Ginsburg steps down within 24 months just to make sure that a left winger replaces her. This could be בכי׳ לדורות.

Dan · « **Reply #932 on:** July 21, 2016, 09:10:47 AM »

I wasn't defending Cruz, I was defending my guvnah'.

JTZ · « **Reply #933 on:** July 21, 2016, 09:11:02 AM »

Quote from: Dan on July 21, 2016, 08:57:55 AM

And what if he's said vile things after that point that you strongly disagree with?
Still a loser?

Trump hasn't changed from the beginning. They agreed to the pledge because they felt as I did that he never had a chance. It backfired and now you suffer the consequences. IIRC Trump was the only one at that time that didn't raise his hand.

Eliyohu · « **Reply #934 on:** July 21, 2016, 09:14:37 AM »

Quote from: JTZ on July 21, 2016, 08:00:05 AM

Trump has done a lot of (insert your own word) so far in this election. In this case he has taken the high road and Cruz has taken the low road. It only shows what I have been saying from the beginning. He is a liar and a phony.

Not sure what high road u refer of that trump took.
Cruz standing by his moral and ethical standards couldnt bring himself to say i endorse and stand by trumps standards which he simply doesn't.(btw scott walker didnt either). i think thats a pretty high road not bowing to pressure like a coward (like christie standing there like an idiot, or rubio going and endorsing). Theres no reason that any individual should feel like he has to go against princibles just because ur a republican card carrying member and party leadership decided you have to.
There was no pledge of endorsement, simply support and wouldnt run third party, Cruz was the only one who never backed off the pledge even when trunp himself did. He very clearly said when it comes to November he urged everyone to go vote and although i believe that consiensce was a poor choice of words, from the rest of his speech he clearly meant to vote for Trump, as Gringrich pharaprased for him.
To me this is the highest road, the highest moral ethical code of conduct of which he stands for, and calling him a phony and a fraud is simply not true. In fact the opposite had he endorsed that would have been the highest form of phoniness and fraud.

Eliyohu · « **Reply #935 on:** July 21, 2016, 09:20:55 AM »

Quote from: JTZ on July 21, 2016, 08:54:27 AM

The only way I can see not endorsing him is if you want him to lose which means you want HRC to win.

Why in the world does not endorsing mean you want HRC to win. Of course he doesnt he pretty clearly said we can't afford HRC to win. Not endorsing means i dont stand for what he does i have different moral standards etc. Theres no question in my mind he wants trump to win at this point, the stupid word they want him to say endorse is just ridiculous. You dont need to endorse to support or vote for him.

Dan · « **Reply #936 on:** July 21, 2016, 09:28:05 AM »

So, do I vote for Trump because he's not Clinton or vote for Clinton because she's not Trump.
Is there any other reason to vote for these 2 clowns?
Or do I just take the Gary Johnson route?

Decisions, decisions...

mb1 · « **Reply #937 on:** July 21, 2016, 09:29:40 AM »

Quote from: Dan on July 21, 2016, 09:28:05 AM

So, do I vote for Trump because he's not Clinton or vote for Clinton because she's not Trump.
Is there any other reason to vote for these 2 clowns?
Or do I just take the Gary Johnson route?

Decisions, decisions...

Just plan a trip for that week.

Dan · « **Reply #938 on:** July 21, 2016, 09:30:21 AM »

I'll still vote down-ballot, even if I write in Mickey Mouse in the end.

EJB · « **Reply #939 on:** July 21, 2016, 09:30:58 AM »

GARY JOHNSON FOR PRESIDENT

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