US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread

[JTZ]

I understood him to mean that they are only making such a big deal about it now not that they were totally silent until now. Before reading the opinion check article did you understand it differently? Maybe we just speak differently in NY.

I took the tweet to mean they are only complaining now because HRC lost. That is factually wrong.

[aygart]

I took the tweet to mean they are only complaining now because HRC lost. That is factually wrong.

That is factually right. Had Hillary won they would not be complaining now.

[JTZ]

That is factually right. Had Hillary won they would not be complaining now.

You are assuming. 
You want to defend this guy as telling the truth that is your choice.

[cf]

You are assuming. 
You want to defend this guy as telling the truth that is your choice.

You want to say that this guy is lying that is your choice.

[aygart]

You are assuming. 
You want to defend this guy as telling the truth that is your choice.

If the assumption would make it true then the article is definitely false.

[JTZ]

You want to say that this guy is lying that is your choice.

You want to defend a guy who brags about grabbing a women by you know what that is your choice and speaks directly to your character.

[cf]

You want to defend a guy who brags about grabbing a women by you know what that is your choice and speaks directly to your character.

You got me! The tweet was a lie
Going forward, every decision that he makes is wrong? And everything he says is a lie?

[JTZ]

Going forward, every decision that he makes is wrong? And everything he says is a lie?

No everything he does is not wrong or a lie. He will be our president and nothing I can do to change that. One thing I won't do is defend his lies or despicable acts.

[cf]

No everything he does is not wrong or a lie. He will be our president and nothing I can do to change that. One thing I won't do is defend his lies or despicable acts.

If i believe something was taken out of context am i allowed to point it out?
What does it show on me that i believe he will be a great president?

[JTZ]

What does it show on me that i believe he will be a great president?

I hope you are right. Believing he will be a great president and defending some of the things he says and does is not the same thing.

[cf]

I hope you are right. Believing he will be a great president and defending some of the things he says and does is not the same thing.

I am defending him when things are taken out of context.

[JTZ]

I am defending him when things are taken out of context.

No but if you believe that then I would look around you because there probably is some sand. 

[aygart]

No but if you believe that then I would look around you because there probably is some sand. 

Of course there is some sand in all directions. When everything he says is made into a lie even when its the truth that makes the sand higher

[zale]

You want to defend a guy who brags about grabbing a women by you know what that is your choice and speaks directly to your character.

I have not checked this thread in a while, but I see that you are still going on and on about his "grab them by the ..." statement.

While you are busy being distracted over his stupid foul-mouthed statement that he said in 2005:

1. the Leftists in the country are busy trying to stage a coup by threatening electors.

2. Facebook will now label news coming from Conservative media as "fake"

3. Obama and Hillary are both blaming her loss on the Russians, and Obama vowed "retaliation". In other words, they are inferring that she didn't really lose, rather the Russians interfered.

But hey, look over there! Trump said a dirty word!

[cholent]

I have not checked this thread in a while, but I see that you are still going on and on about his "grab them by the ..." statement.

While you are busy being distracted over his stupid foul-mouthed statement that he said in 2005:

1. the Leftists in the country are busy trying to stage a coup by threatening electors.

2. Facebook will now label news coming from Conservative media as "fake"

3. Obama and Hillary are both blaming her loss on the Russians, and Obama vowed "retaliation". In other words, they are inferring that she didn't really lose, rather the Russians interfered.

But hey, look over there! Trump said a dirty word!

I almost agreed with some of your points, until I hit the last sentence. You really don't get it, do you? The issue isn't "Trump said a dirty word".  The issue is that he is a sexual predator who bragged about his exploits. That makes him a despicable human being, and nothing can change that. Of course that doesn't change or overshadow everything else that's going on, but it remains highly relevant.

[zale]

I almost agreed with some of your points, until I hit the last sentence. You really don't get it, do you? The issue isn't "Trump said a dirty word".  The issue is that he is a sexual predator who bragged about his exploits. That makes him a despicable human being, and nothing can change that. Of course that doesn't change or overshadow everything else that's going on, but it remains highly relevant.

I can't get into this argument, but sorry, while I did not like what he said, there is no evidence yet that he is a "sexual predator". I would reserve that term for rapists and pedophiles. If any of the women that came forth with their accusations can provide proof in a court of law, I will concede that he is a "sexual predator". Until then, he was just another playboy billionaire with hundreds of adult, grown women that have freedom of choice, willing to do any kind of deviant thing for him (as he himself said in the leaked tape).

[skyguy918]

What's the big deal with the latest pick? He is Jewish isn't he? How hard you want to make it for Trump? Maybe he is picking his cabinet so when he leaves office they all will be on Celebrity Apprentice?

Doubling back to this - can't believe there were so few comments about this. The reason I expected some discussion is because he's an orthodox Jew, which I can pretty much guarantee is a first. And whether or not the pick is actually reflective of Trump's future policy for the ME, if it is, it's a massive change - one that I would expect most Jews will welcome. He is the President of American Friends of Bet El - Bet El is a 'settlement'.

[aygart]

No everything he does is not wrong or a lie. He will be our president and nothing I can do to change that. One thing I won't do is defend his lies or despicable acts.

But what does his comment from 2005 have to do with whether or not it is a lie.

[aygart]

I have not checked this thread in a while, but I see that you are still going on and on about his "grab them by the ..." statement.

While you are busy being distracted over his stupid foul-mouthed statement that he said in 2005:

1. the Leftists in the country are busy trying to stage a coup by threatening electors.

2. Facebook will now label news coming from Conservative media as "fake"

3. Obama and Hillary are both blaming her loss on the Russians, and Obama vowed "retaliation". In other words, they are inferring that she didn't really lose, rather the Russians interfered.

But hey, look over there! Trump said a dirty word!

+1 on this without the specific numbered items. Whenever any arguement about Trump goes against him JTZ will always play the ***** card.

[Super Speed]

You want to defend a guy who brags about grabbing a women by you know what that is your choice and speaks directly to your character.

No it doesn't and you know it. There's him as a private citizen and then there's his policies. And you defending Hillary who tried silencing the people her husband raped also speaks to your character.