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Trump walks in a room.

1. Moshe123 shoots at him because he is pure evil, 2. ilherman+hachover jump in front of the bullets because Trump is our savior. 3. aygart tackles Moshe123 because Trump is better than HRC, 4. but Baruch can't stand Trump so he tells aygart he's crazy and Trump is a madman. 5. ExGingi would like to point out that who cares what he is, all that matters is the supreme court nominations. 6. Dan and others aren't really sure how this makes them feel plus they don't really want to drink poison. 7. Spoiler alert: Moshe123's gun was empty, it was just a blank.

And Freddie is in the back of the room just cooking his cholent. Until he announces that there are TWO menu choices, Pareve Cholent or Vegetable Lasagna. While etech0 figured out that they are both poisoned.


Repeat x100.

And then Hilary walks into the room with the most confidence a candidate has had in recent history. She is so confident that she eats both the Pareve Cholent and Vegetable Lasagna. Everyone is the room is aghast, they don't know how this happened, could it be Comey is behind this poisoning or was it that her Obamacare premiums were to high to get her the help she needed.

Everyone stared as she choked and was cast into oblivion on November, 8, 2016 the last day she was heard from in the public eye.

Moshe123, ilherman, hachover, Baruch, ExGingi, Dan, Freddie, etech0, and the rest of America are in total shock and hope that so long as Trump doesn't eat any Pareve Cholent and Vegetable Lasagna and stays true to his supreme court nominees this may be the greatest thing to happen since the CSR and GC's.

But remember this may be the beginning of the end...

P.S. Thanks to cognitive dissonance aygart, Michael Moore, and Scott Adams knew the whole time that Trump could win, unfortunately for JTZ he may be off DDF for the next 4 years due to his mandatory 3 times daily consumption of CROW!

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Sub notes:

Nov 8 : Time to edit the wiki. Biggest upset in American History according to Michael Isikoff.


http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=57647.0

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5952.html
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump?lang=en
http://blog.dilbert.com/
http://fivethirtyeight.com/
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As things turns out, the most prescient view on this election was that of Michael Moore! Though Scott Adams is also claiming a high view level of prescience.


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Who are you voting for?

Clinton
12 (10.3%)
Trump
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Johnson
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Other (Write in)
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I don't vote in general and won't be voting this year
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Total Members Voted: 117

Author Topic: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread  (Read 3771377 times)

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #2380 on: September 01, 2016, 02:22:47 PM »
I did, but how can Trump outdo Romney? If he's at the same point now (where Romney was in 2012) and possibly even worse than Romney..
They have different opponents. Also, he can very well outdo Romney at the end when Romney just didn't have what it takes to make it to the finish line.
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #2381 on: September 01, 2016, 02:36:20 PM »
Remember, you have to account for the fluke that sometimes, after you've been starving long enough, you open that refrigerator and for some dumb reason, you reach for the spoiled goulash instead of the safe vegetable lasagna. Only two minutes later do you realize the punishment you have inflicted upon yourself.

That was simply poetic
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #2382 on: September 01, 2016, 02:39:31 PM »
That was simply poetic

I used your metaphors.

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #2383 on: September 01, 2016, 02:42:44 PM »
You can't compare Romeny to Trump.

Remember, you have to account for the fluke that sometimes, after you've been starving long enough, you open that refrigerator and for some dumb reason, you reach for the spoiled goulash instead of the safe vegetable lasagna. Only two minutes later do you realize the punishment you have inflicted upon yourself.
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #2384 on: September 01, 2016, 02:56:43 PM »
Do you have any idea where Romney was in RCP 4 years ago today?

Losing by 4.6 is not close...

If Romney was almost tied in 2012 RCP average and lost by 4.6%, what do we make of Trump VS. Hillary 2016? Looks like a landslide loss for Trump?

I hope that I'm wrong here.

I did, but how can Trump outdo Romney? If he's at the same point now (where Romney was in 2012) and possibly even worse than Romney..
You guys aren't making any sense. Your argument goes like this: Romney who was up in the polls lost in November, all the more so Trump who is down in the polls will lose in November.

But what about Obama? Wasn't he down in the polls? Didn't he win in November?

Don't look at the poll numbers, look at the trend. Hillary is looking worse by the day while Trump seems to be making himself more palatable (which explains the recent softening we've seen in this thread).

I stand by my prediction: Trump will win and it won't be as close as you think.
If you don't care why would you comment?
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #2385 on: September 01, 2016, 04:35:39 PM »
You guys aren't making any sense. Your argument goes like this: Romney who was up in the polls lost in November, all the more so Trump who is down in the polls will lose in November.

But what about Obama? Wasn't he down in the polls? Didn't he win in November?

Don't look at the poll numbers, look at the trend. Hillary is looking worse by the day while Trump seems to be making himself more palatable (which explains the recent softening we've seen in this thread).

I stand by my prediction: Trump will win and it won't be as close as you think.

Imagine Trump beating Hillary in the polls now 5-8 points... we would all be saying that Trump is winning, correct?

So when the opposite is happening, we should stick to the same standard. Pretty painful reality

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #2386 on: September 01, 2016, 04:58:16 PM »
Imagine Trump beating Hillary in the polls now 5-8 points... we would all be saying that Trump is winning, correct?

So when the opposite is happening, we should stick to the same standard. Pretty painful reality
There is no question she is winning now. What does that have to with whether or not Trump can catch up?
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #2387 on: September 01, 2016, 05:01:36 PM »
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We’ll invest in the next frontier of military engagement, protecting U.S. interests in outer space and cyberspace. You’ve seen reports. Russia’s hacked into a lot of things. China’s hacked into a lot of things. Russia even hacked into the Democratic National Committee, maybe even some state election systems. So, we’ve got to step up our game. Make sure we are well defended and able to take the fight to those who go after us.
As President, I will make it clear, that the United States will treat cyber attacks just like any other attack. We will be ready with serious political, economic and military responses.

http://time.com/4474619/read-hillary-clinton-american-legion-speech/

Military responses to hacking? Who is the warmonger?
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #2388 on: September 01, 2016, 05:38:22 PM »
Imagine Trump beating Hillary in the polls now 5-8 points... we would all be saying that Trump is winning, correct?

So when the opposite is happening, we should stick to the same standard. Pretty painful reality
I would say the same: which direction are the polls trending?
If you don't care why would you comment?
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #2389 on: September 01, 2016, 09:20:56 PM »
Wonder if the upcoming leaks promised by Assange will do anything.
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #2390 on: September 01, 2016, 09:29:46 PM »
Wonder if the upcoming leaks promised by Assange will do anything.
May dent her numbers for a week or so. I doubt much more than that.

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #2391 on: September 01, 2016, 09:31:17 PM »
May dent her numbers for a week or so. I doubt much more than that.
That's why timing matters. Wait for a leak November 1.
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #2392 on: September 02, 2016, 12:15:15 AM »
All 12 tribes........

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #2393 on: September 02, 2016, 12:28:18 AM »
You guys aren't making any sense. Your argument goes like this: Romney who was up in the polls lost in November, all the more so Trump who is down in the polls will lose in November.

But what about Obama? Wasn't he down in the polls? Didn't he win in November?

Romney wasn't up in the polls, he was just less behind than Trump is. Do you remember "unskewing the polls"?

With regards to the trend, for the past while the trend has been that Trump gains on Clinton because everyone hates her, until he sticks his foot in his mouth and reminds people that he is just as bad if not worse.

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #2394 on: September 02, 2016, 12:32:36 AM »
Romney wasn't up in the polls, he was just less behind than Trump is. Do you remember "unskewing the polls"?

With regards to the trend, for the past while the trend has been that Trump gains on Clinton because everyone hates her, until he sticks his foot in his mouth and reminds people that he is just as bad if not worse.
There were points where Romney was ahead. See the image below.

Smae for Trump.

The same unskew arguments apply this year, possibly more so. That is a primary difference between various polls.
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #2395 on: September 02, 2016, 01:13:42 AM »

The same unskew arguments apply this year.

That's exactly my point. It was wishful thinking then and it's wishful thinking now.

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #2396 on: September 02, 2016, 01:19:54 AM »
That's exactly my point. It was wishful thinking then and it's wishful thinking now.
You are the only one who brought them up.
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #2397 on: September 02, 2016, 09:57:42 AM »
http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trumps-mexico-trip-was-weeks-in-the-making-1472779067?mod=e2tw

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Both sides agreed on several points—the need to reduce crime, including drugs and guns, each country’s right to protect its “sovereign border” by whatever means, and that the North American Free Trade Agreement should be improved to benefit each country, senior Trump advisers said.
One point on which they agreed to disagree: who would pay for a wall. Trump advisers said the two sides decided they wouldn’t discuss the topic of payment in their first meeting, to ease the process of getting acquainted and to focus on the bigger picture.
Mr. Trump flew to Mexico City with a small team, landing Wednesday morning. They flew by helicopter into the grounds of presidential palace, where they were met by Mr. Peña Nieto. Messrs. Trump and Peña Nieto sat in two wingback chairs with their advisers on either side. Mr. Trump brought into the meeting Mr. Giuliani, Alabama GOP Sen.  Jeff Sessions, an early supporter and hard-liner on immigration, and Mr. Kushner.
The hourlong meeting began on a cordial tone, as the two men agreed on areas in common, such as an American-Mexican task force to go after drug cartels, similar to one that the U.S. implemented with Colombia, Mr. Giuliani said. Indeed, it appeared to Mr. Trump that the two men could be allies, not adversaries, on some issues, according to one attendee.
But Mr. Peña Nieto surprised Mr. Trump when he stated flatly that his country wouldn’t pay for the wall. Immediately, Mr. Giuliani responded for Mr. Trump, “That’s off the table.” With that, Mr. Trump moved to another topic.
A person close to Mr. Peña Nieto said that “since there was such a clear disagreement in preparatory conversations over issues about the wall and its payment, both parties agreed not to discuss them at the meeting, and instead talk about other topics, such as the great contribution that the Mexican community makes in the U.S., illegal drugs and weapons trafficking, bilateral trade, within North America and the rest of the world.” The person added: “Before the conversation began, Mr. Peña Neto reiterated to Mr. Trump that Mexico won’t pay for any wall, and as agreed, they discussed other topics.”
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #2399 on: September 04, 2016, 12:10:48 AM »
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