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Trump walks in a room.

1. Moshe123 shoots at him because he is pure evil, 2. ilherman+hachover jump in front of the bullets because Trump is our savior. 3. aygart tackles Moshe123 because Trump is better than HRC, 4. but Baruch can't stand Trump so he tells aygart he's crazy and Trump is a madman. 5. ExGingi would like to point out that who cares what he is, all that matters is the supreme court nominations. 6. Dan and others aren't really sure how this makes them feel plus they don't really want to drink poison. 7. Spoiler alert: Moshe123's gun was empty, it was just a blank.

And Freddie is in the back of the room just cooking his cholent. Until he announces that there are TWO menu choices, Pareve Cholent or Vegetable Lasagna. While etech0 figured out that they are both poisoned.


Repeat x100.

And then Hilary walks into the room with the most confidence a candidate has had in recent history. She is so confident that she eats both the Pareve Cholent and Vegetable Lasagna. Everyone is the room is aghast, they don't know how this happened, could it be Comey is behind this poisoning or was it that her Obamacare premiums were to high to get her the help she needed.

Everyone stared as she choked and was cast into oblivion on November, 8, 2016 the last day she was heard from in the public eye.

Moshe123, ilherman, hachover, Baruch, ExGingi, Dan, Freddie, etech0, and the rest of America are in total shock and hope that so long as Trump doesn't eat any Pareve Cholent and Vegetable Lasagna and stays true to his supreme court nominees this may be the greatest thing to happen since the CSR and GC's.

But remember this may be the beginning of the end...

P.S. Thanks to cognitive dissonance aygart, Michael Moore, and Scott Adams knew the whole time that Trump could win, unfortunately for JTZ he may be off DDF for the next 4 years due to his mandatory 3 times daily consumption of CROW!

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Sub notes:

Nov 8 : Time to edit the wiki. Biggest upset in American History according to Michael Isikoff.


http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=57647.0

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5952.html
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump?lang=en
http://blog.dilbert.com/
http://fivethirtyeight.com/
All Political Ads - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvuOH0oJFwElBgRKz-eMlLw

As things turns out, the most prescient view on this election was that of Michael Moore! Though Scott Adams is also claiming a high view level of prescience.


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Who are you voting for?

Clinton
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Trump
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Johnson
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Other (Write in)
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I don't vote in general and won't be voting this year
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Total Members Voted: 117

Author Topic: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread  (Read 3769780 times)

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #5620 on: November 07, 2016, 08:46:49 PM »
Although we are looking at a likely Hillary win tomorrow, I can't help but wonder why Hillary has never once bothered to reach across the aisle. All her speeches and proposed policies are basically a smack in the face to Conservatives.

Is it that she was afraid that she would lose the Bernie backers, or that she was just overconfident in her winning?

I think many Republicans would have warmed up to her if she had reached out.

Just a thought.
her final OP ed is how she would look for common ground LOL
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #5621 on: November 07, 2016, 09:20:28 PM »
-1. Trump. The internet and media were around 4 years ago too.
4 years ago you were six years old???? Well that explains a lot. ;D ;D ;D ;D
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #5622 on: November 07, 2016, 09:24:26 PM »
Not sure I agree or not, but my wife works in a large Lakewood girls school. The kids were wearing DT buttons today! - this feels wrong imho.
+1. Totally wrong. It's bad enough that we deal with and discuss these things. Why would anyone want an innocent Yiddishe boy or girl to have any connection with this?
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #5624 on: November 07, 2016, 09:27:20 PM »
+1. Totally wrong. It's bad enough that we deal with and discuss these things. Why would anyone want an innocent Yiddishe boy or girl to have any connection with this?
I disagree with it as well but not because they shouldn't be aware of things. The older kids should def be following and discussing to whatever degree. But to have a school promote one or the other is wrong IMO.
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #5625 on: November 07, 2016, 09:30:38 PM »
I disagree with it as well but not because they shouldn't be aware of things. The older kids should def be following and discussing to whatever degree. But to have a school promote one or the other is wrong IMO.
To me it sounded like kids did it on their own not that the school sanctioned it only allowed it.
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #5626 on: November 07, 2016, 09:31:32 PM »
To me it sounded like kids did it on their own not that the school sanctioned it.
Yeah that would hopefully be the case and makes more sense.
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #5627 on: November 07, 2016, 09:33:14 PM »
Do your kids understand and know there is an election going on but it's not discussed in depth or do you not even teach them about elections etc? Also, how old are your kids?
My kids know there's an election, and since they don't live in a vacuum, and I can't control what other kids talk about, some of them did ask me whether I'm for DJT or for HRC. I told them that I will not be voting because where I live it makes no difference. I told them that if I lived where it would make a difference, I would probably ask a Rov or a mashpia what to do, and act accordingly, though I think the correct choice in this case is Trump.

My kids range in age, probably across all ages of kids of DDFers (if not this time around, so in a different election).

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I don't think there is a need to get into things too much with the young ones. But I would teach them about elections and voting etc.
I try to answer my kids questions at an age appropriate level whenever they ask. Thank G-d they are not interested in this kind (or any other kind) of dirt.
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #5628 on: November 07, 2016, 09:33:57 PM »
+1. Totally wrong. It's bad enough that we deal with and discuss these things. Why would anyone want an innocent Yiddishe boy or girl to have any connection with this?
not that it makes it any better but I'm sure satmar doors the same thing.

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #5629 on: November 07, 2016, 09:37:04 PM »
These elections involve a lot more "dirt" than usual IMO.


Elections themselves aren't a "dirty" topic.
  It would be weird if they weren't interested in what's happening in the world, no?
 
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #5630 on: November 07, 2016, 09:37:15 PM »
I disagree with it as well but not because they shouldn't be aware of things. The older kids should def be following and discussing to whatever degree. But to have a school promote one or the other is wrong IMO.
Why? What benefit would they (or anyone else) have from that? How might it add to יראת שמים or קיום התורה והמצוות?
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #5631 on: November 07, 2016, 09:39:31 PM »
Why? What benefit would they (or anyone else) have from that? How might it add to יראת שמים or קיום התורה והמצוות?
Having knowledge of the world helps you be a better person in MANY different ways.


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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #5632 on: November 07, 2016, 09:40:51 PM »
not that it makes it any better but I'm sure satmar doors the same thing.
Funny you say that, people have all kinds of ideas and misconceptions. I've had a few opportunities to discuss hashkafa issues with satmar yungeleit, and they were always stunned to find out how I feel and think (which I believe is in line with the Rebbe's shittos).
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #5633 on: November 07, 2016, 09:46:14 PM »
These elections involve a lot more "dirt" than usual IMO.


Elections themselves aren't a "dirty" topic.
  It would be weird if they weren't interested in what's happening in the world, no?
Politics are dirty!

In my house my kids never heard negative things said (even ברמז) about anyone I disagree with. I believe this approach is serving me well. I would rather be considered weird in some people's eyes than compromise my principles or chinuch.
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #5634 on: November 07, 2016, 09:47:36 PM »


To me it sounded like kids did it on their own not that the school sanctioned it only allowed it.
We're not sure.. you're probably right. But someone brought in a bunch of trump buttons


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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #5635 on: November 07, 2016, 10:05:50 PM »
My kids are also hearing pro-Trump nonsense at school. It's alarming how uniformly the frum community has backed this wacko. We have a major collective cheshbon hanefesh to make.

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #5636 on: November 07, 2016, 10:09:42 PM »
My kids are also hearing pro-Trump nonsense at school. It's alarming how uniformly the frum community has backed this wacko. We have a major collective cheshbon hanefesh to make.
Don't you know that e/t has to be black and white? If she's bad, he has to be good. No room for subtlety and finesse.


ETA: This explains a lot in our kehilos, ודי בזה.

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #5637 on: November 07, 2016, 10:15:53 PM »
Don't you know that e/t has to be black and white? If she's bad, he has to be good. No room for subtlety and finesse.


ETA: This explains a lot in our kehilos, ודי בזה.
Unfortunately, in this case the choice is binary, but that doesn't mean that making the choice means it's good. It just means that it is the right choice at the current juncture.

גדלות המוחין is unfortunately a very rare commodity. We would be in a totally different situation if it were more prevalent.
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #5638 on: November 07, 2016, 10:17:06 PM »
I plan to write in McMullen and will vote downballot for the other races.

My values are just too far away from Clinton's or Trump's to hold my nose and vote.

Clinton means more of the subpar status quo and likely impeachment trials. She's a narcissist, a compulsive liar, and possibly a criminal. I can't support that.

Quite frankly I don't have a clue what Trump means. Maybe a new leaf, maybe the end of the republic as we know it. I strongly disagree with his trade stances. I do know that he and many of his supporters scare me. The rise of dormant antisemitism online is very troubling. I don't think he's a stable individual. I don't trust him not to try to rule like a Duterte/Chavez/Putin type. Even without their power he can still insult and hold grudges against other leaders to our detriment. I don't credibly believe that he'll be a strong Israel backer or that he'll nominate the justices he says he will. I hate the coarse language and bullying that he relies upon. He's the biggest narcissist I've ever seen, is a compulsive liar, and has a very poor grasp on the issue, yet he thinks he knows them better than anyone. As much as I've tried, I just can't support that.

I wish I was smart enough to have a clear vision as to which option was clearly worse, but I don't.

And so I feel like the protest vote is the only viable option that I have. I don't take that option lightly and hope to never have to resort to it again.

Here's hoping 2020 brings better options. May G-d continue to bless America. She's going to need it.
« Last Edit: November 07, 2016, 10:26:41 PM by Dan »
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #5639 on: November 07, 2016, 10:18:06 PM »
My kids are also hearing pro-Trump nonsense at school. It's alarming how uniformly the frum community has backed this wacko. We have a major collective cheshbon hanefesh to make.
Shame on you!

You have frum Jews who are doing their duties to stop America become a liberal funky country, not only you are not helping them you are still telling me "they" have to make a cheshbon hanefesh. With all your professional posts here how supportive you are or how not supportive you are to Trump because ad kan. You still did not point a single issue where Clinton is better, and now let's say all is even (which I disagree, since trump has never put our national security at risk while she did) at least vote for someone who will fight for conservative values which you claim to respect!  I really lost my respect to a lot of folks on here.
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