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Trump walks in a room.

1. Moshe123 shoots at him because he is pure evil, 2. ilherman+hachover jump in front of the bullets because Trump is our savior. 3. aygart tackles Moshe123 because Trump is better than HRC, 4. but Baruch can't stand Trump so he tells aygart he's crazy and Trump is a madman. 5. ExGingi would like to point out that who cares what he is, all that matters is the supreme court nominations. 6. Dan and others aren't really sure how this makes them feel plus they don't really want to drink poison. 7. Spoiler alert: Moshe123's gun was empty, it was just a blank.

And Freddie is in the back of the room just cooking his cholent. Until he announces that there are TWO menu choices, Pareve Cholent or Vegetable Lasagna. While etech0 figured out that they are both poisoned.


Repeat x100.

And then Hilary walks into the room with the most confidence a candidate has had in recent history. She is so confident that she eats both the Pareve Cholent and Vegetable Lasagna. Everyone is the room is aghast, they don't know how this happened, could it be Comey is behind this poisoning or was it that her Obamacare premiums were to high to get her the help she needed.

Everyone stared as she choked and was cast into oblivion on November, 8, 2016 the last day she was heard from in the public eye.

Moshe123, ilherman, hachover, Baruch, ExGingi, Dan, Freddie, etech0, and the rest of America are in total shock and hope that so long as Trump doesn't eat any Pareve Cholent and Vegetable Lasagna and stays true to his supreme court nominees this may be the greatest thing to happen since the CSR and GC's.

But remember this may be the beginning of the end...

P.S. Thanks to cognitive dissonance aygart, Michael Moore, and Scott Adams knew the whole time that Trump could win, unfortunately for JTZ he may be off DDF for the next 4 years due to his mandatory 3 times daily consumption of CROW!

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Sub notes:

Nov 8 : Time to edit the wiki. Biggest upset in American History according to Michael Isikoff.


http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=57647.0

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5952.html
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump?lang=en
http://blog.dilbert.com/
http://fivethirtyeight.com/
All Political Ads - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvuOH0oJFwElBgRKz-eMlLw

As things turns out, the most prescient view on this election was that of Michael Moore! Though Scott Adams is also claiming a high view level of prescience.


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Clinton
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Johnson
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Other (Write in)
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I don't vote in general and won't be voting this year
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Author Topic: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread  (Read 2037007 times)

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8880 on: December 07, 2016, 09:37:49 AM »
How about telling the truth for a change?
That wouldn't change a thing. Never going to happen anyways.

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8881 on: December 07, 2016, 09:44:45 AM »
That wouldn't change a thing. Never going to happen anyways.
If he nominates a true conservative for SCOTUS I will give him credit for that.
"LESS IS MORE" It is the cumulative effect that kills deals!!! How many times do I have to say this?  >:(

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8882 on: December 07, 2016, 09:59:58 AM »
If he nominates a true conservative for SCOTUS I will give him credit for that.
What's your litmus test?
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8883 on: December 07, 2016, 10:05:54 AM »
What's your litmus test?
Pro marriage / anti-abortion are a couple.  ;)
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8885 on: December 07, 2016, 10:51:07 AM »
Pro marriage / anti-abortion are a couple.  ;)

How about conservative cabinet picks?
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8886 on: December 07, 2016, 11:30:52 AM »
Pro marriage / anti-abortion are a couple.  ;)
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/07/ohio-heartbeat-bill-abortion-ban/95082322/

Which brings to memory a personal story I once posted somewhere on DDF.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8887 on: December 07, 2016, 11:34:33 AM »
BTW a little off topic but I have been all over the world (as many folks here have) and I think I have ONLY experienced open anti-Semitism in New York. I don't know what is in people's hearts but the only times I have experienced open hatred for being Jewish has always been in NY. For whatever it's worth, this has happened regardless of who is president or which party controls congress or even who the mayor is.
You've obviously never been down south...

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8888 on: December 07, 2016, 12:02:54 PM »
You've obviously never been down south...

Many times, even in the rural parts. Like I said, I don't know what is in people's hearts but never experienced anything open.

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8889 on: December 07, 2016, 12:06:46 PM »
@JTZ - I apologize for the wall of text, but I feel this is important context to provide for the discussion.

Most of us on this forum are visibly Jewish. If we don't have beards and hats, we have kippas and tzitzis, etc. I would be surprised if the number of people here who have had an anti-Semitic experience is less than 100%. The stats show that Jews are on the receiving end of more hate crimes than any other group.

I've gotten middle fingers in Johannesburg, been spat on in Durban, and often walk over a swastika etched into the sidewalk near my in law's home in one of the Mid-Western United States. When I was in Yeshiva in Paris for a year, friends of mine where beaten up (This was almost 15 years ago - now it is MUCH worse).

I was spat on in an airport when I was 13. At least a dozen people saw it. The spitter was more than double my age. No one did or said a thing.
Those fist fights in Paris? Some were on full trains. Again, no one did or said a thing.

I have never reported a hate crime. No one I know ever has - and I know people who have experienced far more violent things then I have.

I live in Brooklyn, a truly liberal and hip city (Hilary Clinton's headquarters). Swastikas and anti-Semitic graffiti are common occurrences - in alley ways, on subway platforms, and more.  When a group of thugs threw rocks at a school bus filled with little Jewish kids it didn't even make local news. A Chassidic guy was left unconscious under a car one night after a spate of anti-Semitic events - it only made the news when a few hundred of us marched to the precinct the next day.

You know what made news? When a swastika was painted the day after Trump won.

Weird, huh?

That Muslims and Neo-Nazis beat us is to be expected. But, in a sense, you know what is worse? Leftist, liberal self-righteous hypocrites who find it ok to mock, ridicule and antagonize "Ultra-Orthodox Right Wing Fundamentalist" Jews - while throwing fits of rage at every perceived micro-aggression against any other minority or race.

For example:

Gentrification is a big deal. Neither I nor any of my friends can afford to buy a home in our neighborhood. Renting an apt is nigh impossible. But whenever you read or hear about gentrification in Crown Heights, you will find out about Chassidic Landlords (Slumlords) who are mistreating and pushing out the Black community.  Of course lower and middle class blacks are being pushed out. So are the Jews! But it is ok for the media to paint the Chassidic community with the broad anti-Semitic brush of being hook nosed landlords cheating the poor blacks out of their money and homes. In actuality, it is market forces being driven by young artisanal, hipster farm-to-table vegans which are responsible.

This anti-Semitic attitude directly contributes to the violent antisemitism I sampled above, just as Al Sharpton’s “diamond merchant” rhetoric led to riots and murder.

This is just one tiny example that I deal with in NYC, one of the largest concentrations of visible Jews on the planet, in the shining pride of Western civilization. In other places, it is far, far worse. (Look at Jeremy Corbyn in the UK for a start, and we can go from there.)

So that's why we don't care about hate crime stats. We know firsthand that they don't even begin to tell the story. That's why we are so skeptical of leftists and the media speaking of hate crimes - we have a long history of them not only ignoring hate crimes committed against us, but agitating and prodding those who do us actual harm.
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8890 on: December 07, 2016, 12:45:16 PM »
"drops mike"

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8891 on: December 07, 2016, 12:46:41 PM »
@Yehuda57, that is the best post ever. I couldn't agree more.

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8892 on: December 07, 2016, 12:46:57 PM »
@JTZ - I apologize for the wall of text,
You don't need to apologize for anything. I don't think anyone disagrees that hate crimes of all types are underreported.
"LESS IS MORE" It is the cumulative effect that kills deals!!! How many times do I have to say this?  >:(

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8893 on: December 07, 2016, 12:51:12 PM »
You don't need to apologize for anything. I don't think anyone disagrees that hate crimes of all types are underreported.

i appreciate your desire to nudge us out of our parochial thinking. I really do. No sarcasm intended. But did you understand the point he made about how the reaction to anti-Jewish hate differs from other forms of hate?

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8894 on: December 07, 2016, 12:54:04 PM »
You don't need to apologize for anything. I don't think anyone disagrees that hate crimes of all types are underreported.
I think thats only one of the points in his post, which I have to agree is very well put

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8895 on: December 07, 2016, 12:55:47 PM »
But did you understand the point he made about how the reaction to anti-Jewish hate differs from other forms of hate?
Yes I understand what he is saying.
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8896 on: December 07, 2016, 01:04:56 PM »
Yes I understand what he is saying.
Do you disagree?
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8897 on: December 07, 2016, 01:08:02 PM »
Do you disagree?
Even on a Friday I would not answer that.
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8898 on: December 07, 2016, 01:08:54 PM »
Even on a Friday I would not answer that.
Sorry.
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #8899 on: December 07, 2016, 01:35:59 PM »
@JTZ - I apologize for the wall of text, but I feel this is important context to provide for the discussion.

Most of us on this forum are visibly Jewish. If we don't have beards and hats, we have kippas and tzitzis, etc. I would be surprised if the number of people here who have had an anti-Semitic experience is less than 100%. The stats show that Jews are on the receiving end of more hate crimes than any other group.

I've gotten middle fingers in Johannesburg, been spat on in Durban, and often walk over a swastika etched into the sidewalk near my in law's home in one of the Mid-Western United States. When I was in Yeshiva in Paris for a year, friends of mine where beaten up (This was almost 15 years ago - now it is MUCH worse).

I was spat on in an airport when I was 13. At least a dozen people saw it. The spitter was more than double my age. No one did or said a thing.
Those fist fights in Paris? Some were on full trains. Again, no one did or said a thing.

I have never reported a hate crime. No one I know ever has - and I know people who have experienced far more violent things then I have.

I live in Brooklyn, a truly liberal and hip city (Hilary Clinton's headquarters). Swastikas and anti-Semitic graffiti are common occurrences - in alley ways, on subway platforms, and more.  When a group of thugs threw rocks at a school bus filled with little Jewish kids it didn't even make local news. A Chassidic guy was left unconscious under a car one night after a spate of anti-Semitic events - it only made the news when a few hundred of us marched to the precinct the next day.

You know what made news? When a swastika was painted the day after Trump won.

Weird, huh?

That Muslims and Neo-Nazis beat us is to be expected. But, in a sense, you know what is worse? Leftist, liberal self-righteous hypocrites who find it ok to mock, ridicule and antagonize "Ultra-Orthodox Right Wing Fundamentalist" Jews - while throwing fits of rage at every perceived micro-aggression against any other minority or race.

For example:

Gentrification is a big deal. Neither I nor any of my friends can afford to buy a home in our neighborhood. Renting an apt is nigh impossible. But whenever you read or hear about gentrification in Crown Heights, you will find out about Chassidic Landlords (Slumlords) who are mistreating and pushing out the Black community.  Of course lower and middle class blacks are being pushed out. So are the Jews! But it is ok for the media to paint the Chassidic community with the broad anti-Semitic brush of being hook nosed landlords cheating the poor blacks out of their money and homes. In actuality, it is market forces being driven by young artisanal, hipster farm-to-table vegans which are responsible.

This anti-Semitic attitude directly contributes to the violent antisemitism I sampled above, just as Al Sharpton’s “diamond merchant” rhetoric led to riots and murder.

This is just one tiny example that I deal with in NYC, one of the largest concentrations of visible Jews on the planet, in the shining pride of Western civilization. In other places, it is far, far worse. (Look at Jeremy Corbyn in the UK for a start, and we can go from there.)

So that's why we don't care about hate crime stats. We know firsthand that they don't even begin to tell the story. That's why we are so skeptical of leftists and the media speaking of hate crimes - we have a long history of them not only ignoring hate crimes committed against us, but agitating and prodding those who do us actual harm.

Wow very well said.
And I must admit I usually find myself silently disagreeing with your sentiments, but here I think you hit the nail on the head 100%.