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Trump walks in a room.

1. Moshe123 shoots at him because he is pure evil, 2. ilherman+hachover jump in front of the bullets because Trump is our savior. 3. aygart tackles Moshe123 because Trump is better than HRC, 4. but Baruch can't stand Trump so he tells aygart he's crazy and Trump is a madman. 5. ExGingi would like to point out that who cares what he is, all that matters is the supreme court nominations. 6. Dan and others aren't really sure how this makes them feel plus they don't really want to drink poison. 7. Spoiler alert: Moshe123's gun was empty, it was just a blank.

And Freddie is in the back of the room just cooking his cholent. Until he announces that there are TWO menu choices, Pareve Cholent or Vegetable Lasagna. While etech0 figured out that they are both poisoned.


Repeat x100.

And then Hilary walks into the room with the most confidence a candidate has had in recent history. She is so confident that she eats both the Pareve Cholent and Vegetable Lasagna. Everyone is the room is aghast, they don't know how this happened, could it be Comey is behind this poisoning or was it that her Obamacare premiums were to high to get her the help she needed.

Everyone stared as she choked and was cast into oblivion on November, 8, 2016 the last day she was heard from in the public eye.

Moshe123, ilherman, hachover, Baruch, ExGingi, Dan, Freddie, etech0, and the rest of America are in total shock and hope that so long as Trump doesn't eat any Pareve Cholent and Vegetable Lasagna and stays true to his supreme court nominees this may be the greatest thing to happen since the CSR and GC's.

But remember this may be the beginning of the end...

P.S. Thanks to cognitive dissonance aygart, Michael Moore, and Scott Adams knew the whole time that Trump could win, unfortunately for JTZ he may be off DDF for the next 4 years due to his mandatory 3 times daily consumption of CROW!

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Sub notes:

Nov 8 : Time to edit the wiki. Biggest upset in American History according to Michael Isikoff.


http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=57647.0

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5952.html
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump?lang=en
http://blog.dilbert.com/
http://fivethirtyeight.com/
All Political Ads - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvuOH0oJFwElBgRKz-eMlLw

As things turns out, the most prescient view on this election was that of Michael Moore! Though Scott Adams is also claiming a high view level of prescience.


Poll

Who are you voting for?

Clinton
12 (10.3%)
Trump
67 (57.3%)
Johnson
2 (1.7%)
Other (Write in)
8 (6.8%)
I don't vote in general and won't be voting this year
9 (7.7%)
I do vote in general, but won't be this year
19 (16.2%)

Total Members Voted: 117

Author Topic: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread  (Read 3770686 times)

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #10460 on: January 25, 2017, 11:25:36 AM »
There is strong evidence for one and little or no evidence for the other. You see no difference? I guess he is launching an investigation into Russia to?  :)

That's 100% false.
There IS evidence of voter fraud and the only question is to what extent. Is it a few thousand or is it much more than that?
Studies have shown that up to 15% (but likely much lower) of non-citizens voted in the 2008 election.
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #10461 on: January 25, 2017, 11:30:38 AM »
That's 100% false.
There IS evidence of voter fraud and the only question is to what extent. Is it a few thousand or is it much more than that?
Studies have shown that up to 15% (but likely much lower) of non-citizens voted in the 2008 election.
Produce these alternative facts. I have seen one study that there might be voter fraud to the extent you are talking about. All other studies I have seen debunk this notion and his own lawyers back up this position. Did his lawyers lie?

Trump’s lawyers said, “All available evidence suggests that the 2016 general election was not tainted by fraud or mistake.”

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #10462 on: January 25, 2017, 11:31:24 AM »
The media was mocking him. They don't want any investigation.
They always take what he says literally, now it gets reversed.

And when fraud is uncovered...

"Results not tainted by fraud" =/= no fraud occured

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #10463 on: January 25, 2017, 11:35:28 AM »
They always take what he says literally, now it gets reversed.
They took what he said literally and mocked him over it. Watch yesterdays news conference and decide for yourself.
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #10464 on: January 25, 2017, 11:36:30 AM »
He will also receive credit for the crash that is coming this year.  :)
Gasp!! You hope the president fails ? ;)

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #10465 on: January 25, 2017, 11:38:21 AM »
Gasp!! You hope the president fails ? ;)
I live in reality but I keep hoping I am wrong about him.
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #10466 on: January 25, 2017, 11:41:07 AM »
Gasp!! You hope the president fails ? ;)

Prediction /= Hope

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #10467 on: January 25, 2017, 11:43:18 AM »
Prediction /= Hope
I hope my prediction is wrong.  :)
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #10468 on: January 25, 2017, 11:54:52 AM »
Gasp!! You hope the president fails ? ;)

The crash will have nothing to do with the President, which is why these "goalposts" as stationary as they may be, are completely meaningless.

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #10469 on: January 25, 2017, 12:06:36 PM »
Take it with Trump lawyers not me.
The existence of fraud does not always taint an election.
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #10470 on: January 25, 2017, 12:36:34 PM »
The crash will have nothing to do with the President, which is why these "goalposts" as stationary as they may be, are completely meaningless.
agreed 100%
there are many things that you can attribute to a president but the stock market is dependent on so many other things that it is silly to make a direct connection.

Besides, the dow is a terrible measure of the stock market so even if you wanted to look at market change during a presidency you should be looking at wilshire 5000 or s&p

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #10471 on: January 25, 2017, 12:38:14 PM »
I live in reality but I keep hoping I am wrong about him.
forgetting about the silliness of the voter fraud and inauguration what do you think of the other things that he has been doing since taking office?

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #10472 on: January 25, 2017, 12:42:57 PM »
forgetting about the silliness of the voter fraud and inauguration what do you think of the other things that he has been doing since taking office?
He'd rather not think about those :)

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #10473 on: January 25, 2017, 12:55:39 PM »
Voter fraud is probably very real because it is so very easy to pull off and get away with. It's going to be very difficult to find evidence for the very same reason. I wish they wouldn't bother looking for evidence of past fraud (that may be a fruitless endeavor) and instead focus on limiting the moral hazard that the current voting system creates. Requiring some form of ID would be nice (could be biometric these days) and/or comparing registered voter lists to the Social Security master death records.

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #10474 on: January 25, 2017, 01:05:32 PM »
He'd rather not think about those :)
I dont think you are right. JTZ has shown an ability to give credit where its due (at times) and I think his political views might align with some of the things trump has set in motion. curious what he says

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #10475 on: January 25, 2017, 01:06:56 PM »
I dont think you are right. JTZ has shown an ability to give credit where its due (at times) and I think his political views might align with some of the things trump has set in motion. curious what he says
I should've put an emoji.  :P

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #10476 on: January 25, 2017, 01:42:41 PM »
Produce these alternative facts. I have seen one study that there might be voter fraud to the extent you are talking about. All other studies I have seen debunk this notion and his own lawyers back up this position. Did his lawyers lie?
You said there's no evidence of fraud.
I said there's evidence of fraud (and quoted a study yesterday proving so) but the question is  the extent.
You reply that I need to bring evidence to the extent. (Moving goalposts is a familiar activity).
There is no evidence to the extent just yet, but there are studies suggesting that the extent can be concerning, so I think it's something worth investigating further.

Trump’s lawyers said, “All available evidence suggests that the 2016 general election was not tainted by fraud or mistake.”


The context of your quote is important.

The existence of fraud does not always taint an election.

There is no current evidence of fraud that would favor Trump or put question to his legitimacy.
There is evidence of fraud that would favor Democrats, perhaps to an extent that could decide an election.
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #10477 on: January 25, 2017, 02:01:08 PM »
...but his lawyers state the election was legit. There was no fraud.

Trump’s lawyers said, “All available evidence suggests that the 2016 general election was not tainted by fraud or mistake.”
This question was asked by a Fox News (of all places) reporter at today's briefing.
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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #10478 on: January 25, 2017, 03:07:23 PM »
He's doing pretty good so far with this briefing. Must be drugged.

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Re: 2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #10479 on: January 25, 2017, 04:30:56 PM »
I dont think you are right. JTZ has shown an ability to give credit where its due (at times) and I think his political views might align with some of the things trump has set in motion. curious what he says
When JTZ speaks no one listens.  :)
Most of it hasn't effected anything yet. Give it sometime. Do you have examples?
He did put a hiring freeze into effect. Don't think that is a good thing.
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