US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread

[Ergel]

I know exactly what you said.
My point is your silly to think that people that have Jewish families (Trump), and are known to be very pro-Jews by those who know them well (Trump and Bannon) are somehow very anti-semitic. We already know for a fact that Trump is already far better for Israel then probably any other president, definitely better than the previous one that demonized Israel every chance he got. And many of us that know people that are either close with Trump or his administration all say that he likes Jews.

So you can read into his words and try to find a way to call him or Bannon an anti-semite but Jews will find it laughable.
It's almost the equivalent of calling all of us anti-semites, it doesn't really deserve a serious response.

It's not reading into his words. Their purposeful omission of Jews from Holocaust is dispicable and disgusting. That doesn't mean they won't otherwise be good for the Jews.

[yuneeq]

It's not reading into his words. Their purposeful omission of Jews from Holocaust is dispicable and disgusting. That doesn't mean they won't otherwise be good for the Jews.

Was it in fact to minimize that Jews were murdered or was it to include the others that were killed? I mean, the White House does say that obviously the Jews went through the Holocaust. It is also interesting that the statement was written by a Russian-Jewish immigrant that descended from Holocaust survivors. Self-hating Jew? http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/316994-jewish-aide-wrote-trump-holocaust-statement-report

[Ergel]

Was it in fact to minimize that Jews were murdered or was it to include the others that were killed?

Seriously? You went there to defend Mr. Trump?
Can you do some research first? It is a known Holocaust denying tactic to say Jews weren't targeted. Yes, many others were killed, but the final solution was created to solve the Jewish problem. That's a fact. And to write a statement about the Holocaust and intentionally leave out the Jews is ignorant at best. And that would be true if the statement were written by my mother

[yuneeq]

Seriously? You went there to defend Mr. Trump?
Can you do some research first? It is a known Holocaust denying tactic to say Jews weren't targeted. Yes, many others were killed, but the final solution was created to solve the Jewish problem. That's a fact. And to write a statement about the Holocaust and intentionally leave out the Jews is ignorant at best. And that would be true if the statement were written by my mother

You make it sound like a huge deal. Maybe you're right, and I will google it, but I was under the impression that Holocaust deniers believe that Jews weren't murdered or very few were murdered, and don't believe that 6 million Jews were murdered. The Trump administration does believe 6 million were murdered, so where do I go wrong?

P.s. Sean Spicer manages to say the stupidest things like "The president went out of his way to recognize the Holocaust" - what the heck? This guy probably won't last long.

[JTZ]

P.s. Sean Spicer manages to say the stupidest things like "The president went out of his way to recognize the Holocaust" - what the heck? This guy probably won't last long.

He says exactly what the president tells him to say. You are right he won't last long as his conscience will get to him. You can only lie so long for Trump.

[syp5]

Seriously? You went there to defend Mr. Trump?
Can you do some research first? It is a known Holocaust denying tactic to say Jews weren't targeted. Yes, many others were killed, but the final solution was created to solve the Jewish problem. That's a fact. And to write a statement about the Holocaust and intentionally leave out the Jews is ignorant at best. And that would be true if the statement were written by my mother

Do you really think that He meant to imply Holocaust denial views?? Has he ever said anything that would suggest he held such views? He actually has come out very strongly in defence of Israel.....
 I would think it was simply a poorly worded statement... nothing sinister....

[good sam]

Sally Yates is out, Dana Boente is in.

https://m.facebook.com/DonaldTrump/posts/10158573747555725

Curious, anyone know why he couldn't or wouldn't appoint Sessions as acting AG?

[JTZ]

Do you really think that He meant to imply Holocaust denial views?? Has he ever said anything that would suggest he held such views? He actually has come out very strongly in defence of Israel.....
 I would think it was simply a poorly worded statement... nothing sinister....

First he backs off moving the embassy now this. Someone has his ear. You better hope this isn't a pattern to come.

[Ergel]

Do you really think that He meant to imply Holocaust denial views?? Has he ever said anything that would suggest he held such views? He actually has come out very strongly in defence of Israel.....
 I would think it was simply a poorly worded statement... nothing sinister....

No and yes. As yuneeq said, many others were killed during the Holocaust. A lot of people believe that Jews played the victim card and there was nothing special about Jews. It's just a question of to what degree do you believe that

[yuneeq]

He says exactly what the president tells him to say. You are right he won't last long as his conscience will get to him. You can only lie so long for Trump.

Possibly, although the president controls the narrative I think it's up to Spicer to articulate it properly and he has already failed repeatedly. Did he also tell him to throw a fit in his first press conference? It was possible to mention the falsely misrepresented pictures of Trumps inauguration (the ones taken way before or after his speech) without getting angry or start ranting. 

[JTZ]

Possibly, although the president controls the narrative I think it's up to Spicer to articulate it properly and he has already failed repeatedly. Did he also tell him to throw a fit in his first press conference? It was possible to mention the falsely misrepresented pictures of Trumps inauguration (the ones taken way before or after his speech) without getting angry or start ranting.

Maybe he was upset that he was sent out there to do that? Monday when he had a plausible explanation for the crowd size he was a different person. KAC was so rattled the following day she came up with the horrendous line "alternative facts" that will haunt them forever.

[yuneeq]

Maybe he was upset that he was sent out there to do that?

I won't speculate but if he can't do his job while staying calm then he's not fit for the job.
His job is to answer questions and he can't just read off a script. When he's not calm he says things that are either wrong or sound wrong.

[Yehuda57]

I won't speculate but if he can't do his job while staying calm then he's not fit for the job.
His job is to answer questions and he can't just read off a script. When he's not calm he says things that are either wrong or sound wrong.

Hmmm, are you describing Trump or Spicer?

[aygart]

Was it in fact to minimize that Jews were murdered or was it to include the others that were killed? I mean, the White House does say that obviously the Jews went through the Holocaust. It is also interesting that the statement was written by a Russian-Jewish immigrant that descended from Holocaust survivors. Self-hating Jew? http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/316994-jewish-aide-wrote-trump-holocaust-statement-report

The whole idea of being sure every statement is exactly even when the subject matter is not is offensive in itself and a big portion of why many voted for him. It is exactly what, I am pretty sure, you yourself have complained about regarding Obama. Now you are defending Trump about it? In general I support Trump, but that does not mean I need to defend every single thing he says or does like some here are doing. Neither does not supporting him need to mean that every single thing he says or does is wrong like others here are doing.

No and yes. As yuneeq said, many others were killed during the Holocaust. A lot of people believe that Jews played the victim card and there was nothing special about Jews. It's just a question of to what degree do you believe that

This is exactly the issue here. Had they said that they were not specific to any group while mentioning at the later point that of course Jews were the main victims it would have ended. By saying that they left out mention on purpose is an issue.

[JTZ]

In general I support Trump, but that does not mean I need to defend every single thing he says or does like some here are doing. Neither does not supporting him need to mean that every single thing he says or does is wrong like others here are doing.

That's why you need more impartial people like me.

[aygart]

That's why you need more impartial people like me.

Convince yourself....

[TimT]

That's why you need more impartial people like me.

Just make sure you get your commission from msn for all the traffic you've been sending them lately.

[JTZ]

Just make sure you get your commission from msn for all the traffic you've been sending them lately.

It was the home page already on IE. Don't know how to change it.

[JTZ]

Convince yourself....

Remember I am Mr goalpost and they don't move. Another case in point. I said Trump should keep his mouth shut on commenting on Obamas policies before he took office. Now Obama should keep his mouth shut as we only have one president at a time and that is Trump. Fair, balanced and impartial. 

[aygart]

Remember I am Mr goalpost and they don't move. Another case in point. I said Trump should keep his mouth shut on commenting on Obamas policies before he took office. Now Obama should keep his mouth shut as we only have one president at a time and that is Trump. Fair, balanced and impartial. 

That shows little. I have praised, criticized, and defended him as well. Do you consider me to be impartial?

BTW, I have no issue with Obama commenting on Trumps policies nor when Trump commented on Obama policies.