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Trump walks in a room.

1. Moshe123 shoots at him because he is pure evil, 2. ilherman+hachover jump in front of the bullets because Trump is our savior. 3. aygart tackles Moshe123 because Trump is better than HRC, 4. but Baruch can't stand Trump so he tells aygart he's crazy and Trump is a madman. 5. ExGingi would like to point out that who cares what he is, all that matters is the supreme court nominations. 6. Dan and others aren't really sure how this makes them feel plus they don't really want to drink poison. 7. Spoiler alert: Moshe123's gun was empty, it was just a blank.

And Freddie is in the back of the room just cooking his cholent. Until he announces that there are TWO menu choices, Pareve Cholent or Vegetable Lasagna. While etech0 figured out that they are both poisoned.


Repeat x100.

And then Hilary walks into the room with the most confidence a candidate has had in recent history. She is so confident that she eats both the Pareve Cholent and Vegetable Lasagna. Everyone is the room is aghast, they don't know how this happened, could it be Comey is behind this poisoning or was it that her Obamacare premiums were to high to get her the help she needed.

Everyone stared as she choked and was cast into oblivion on November, 8, 2016 the last day she was heard from in the public eye.

Moshe123, ilherman, hachover, Baruch, ExGingi, Dan, Freddie, etech0, and the rest of America are in total shock and hope that so long as Trump doesn't eat any Pareve Cholent and Vegetable Lasagna and stays true to his supreme court nominees this may be the greatest thing to happen since the CSR and GC's.

But remember this may be the beginning of the end...

P.S. Thanks to cognitive dissonance aygart, Michael Moore, and Scott Adams knew the whole time that Trump could win, unfortunately for JTZ he may be off DDF for the next 4 years due to his mandatory 3 times daily consumption of CROW!

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Sub notes:

Nov 8 : Time to edit the wiki. Biggest upset in American History according to Michael Isikoff.


http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=57647.0

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5952.html
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump?lang=en
http://blog.dilbert.com/
http://fivethirtyeight.com/
All Political Ads - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvuOH0oJFwElBgRKz-eMlLw

As things turns out, the most prescient view on this election was that of Michael Moore! Though Scott Adams is also claiming a high view level of prescience.


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Johnson
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Author Topic: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread  (Read 2037005 times)

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #12140 on: May 17, 2017, 11:29:41 AM »
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #12142 on: May 17, 2017, 11:58:16 AM »
THe Times is sourced from Wapo etc.
Sourcing for Comey memo:
NYT https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/us/politics/james-comey-trump-flynn-russia-investigation.html
WSJ https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-asked-comey-to-drop-flynn-investigation-according-to-memo-written-by-former-fbi-director-1494974774?mod=e2tw
WaPo https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/notes-made-by-former-fbi-director-comey-say-trump-pressured-him-to-end-flynn-probe/2017/05/16/52351a38-3a80-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html
CBS http://www.cbsnews.com/news/comey-memo-says-trump-asked-him-to-drop-flynn-probe/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=37663653
NBC AP https://apnews.com/91197d2b5d394235ada78a6584271508/The-Latest:-Trump-asked-Comey-to-shut-down-Flynn-probe?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP
ABC http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/comeys-memo-trump/story?id=47456378

Can you tell me what smoke there is about collusion? I have a feeling I know your answer but want to hear it from you.
Flynn's contacts with random Russian officials combined with his closeness to the campaign. Stone's statements and timing re: Wikileaks are suspicious. Manafort's dealings with all kinds of folks. Michael Cohen's advocacy for dropping Russia sanctions. Parts of the infamous dossier. Again I said the final answer may be no collusion. But career intel and investigative people are concerned enough to see the investigation through.

Were you equally disturbed with Dem obstruction of the Hillary emails?

Hillary emails is a whole other messy thing. My thoughts summarized 1. Private server very stupid and risky, shouldn't have done it. Anyone less senior who did it would be stripped of clearance and fired. But senior people get slaps on the wrist for worse stuff- see David Petraeus 2. Campaign handled it very stupidly and pooh-pooh'ed it instead of taking it seriously and apologizing. 3. The congressional investigation was carried out as a witch hunt rather than search for truth (don't know details of FBI invest), but it's all water under the bridge now

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #12143 on: May 17, 2017, 12:00:52 PM »
Hillary emails is a whole other messy thing. My thoughts summarized 1. Private server very stupid and risky, shouldn't have done it. Anyone less senior who did it would be stripped of clearance and fired. But senior people get slaps on the wrist for worse stuff- see David Petraeus 2. Campaign handled it very stupidly and pooh-pooh'ed it instead of taking it seriously and apologizing. 3. The congressional investigation was carried out as a witch hunt rather than search for truth (don't know details of FBI invest), but it's all water under the bridge now
I am referring to things like the tarmac meeting and the like. We did not see Lynch recuse herself.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #12144 on: May 17, 2017, 12:04:15 PM »
Sourcing for Comey memo:
They all quote "according to 2 people close to Comey" Great.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #12145 on: May 17, 2017, 12:05:27 PM »
http://thefederalist.com/2017/05/16/tips-for-reading-washington-post-stories-about-trump-based-on-anonymous-leaks/

A lot of issues and mischaracterizations in that article.
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This week, the Washington Post reported that President Trump threatened national security during his meeting with Russians last week. The story was based on anonymous leaks regarding a real meeting that took place. The report was immediately slapped down as false by multiple high-level Trump officials who were present in the meeting:

Except it wasn't false, it was true. Trump tweeted he did it the next morning, contradicting those officials who obfuscated on his behalf. Further reporting has confirmed the Post story and expanded the details to include that it was confidential info from an Israeli agent.

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #12146 on: May 17, 2017, 12:07:53 PM »
They all quote "according to 2 people close to Comey" Great.

Well Chaffetz has requested the memo, so we may get to see it ourselves soon.

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #12147 on: May 17, 2017, 12:10:12 PM »
Well Chaffetz has requested the memo, so we may get to see it ourselves soon.
I fully support the investigation.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #12148 on: May 17, 2017, 12:12:34 PM »
A lot of issues and mischaracterizations in that article.
Except it wasn't false, it was true. Trump tweeted he did it the next morning, contradicting those officials who obfuscated on his behalf. Further reporting has confirmed the Post story and expanded the details to include that it was confidential info from an Israeli agent.
again 1+1=99999999999999999
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #12150 on: May 17, 2017, 12:30:22 PM »
A lot of issues and mischaracterizations in that article.
Except it wasn't false, it was true. Trump tweeted he did it the next morning, contradicting those officials who obfuscated on his behalf. Further reporting has confirmed the Post story and expanded the details to include that it was confidential info from an Israeli agent.

The problem is that even when the reporters sources are valid, the interpretation of those facts in the articles is very much impacted by the reporters clearly stated anti-trump biases.

It has been confirmed that he gave the Russians information about the laptop threat (that we now know came from Israel), but there is no reason to believe that his statement in any way comprised the source of the information. It was the "patriotic" leakers and reporters who put that Israeli agent's life at risk.

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #12151 on: May 17, 2017, 12:40:47 PM »
The problem is that even when the reporters sources are valid, the interpretation of those facts in the articles is very much impacted by the reporters clearly stated anti-trump biases.

It has been confirmed that he gave the Russians information about the laptop threat (that we now know came from Israel), but there is no reason to believe that his statement in any way comprised the source of the information. It was the "patriotic" leakers and reporters who put that Israeli agent's life at risk.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #12152 on: May 17, 2017, 12:44:49 PM »
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-uncovered/trump-gave-russians-secrets-news-orgs-are-being-asked-withhold-n760811
Does it surprise you that in a discussion between the President and the Russian Ambassador there were things discussed which should not be public consumption? WHy is that even inappropriate? Isn't that needed in order to cooperate?
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #12155 on: May 17, 2017, 04:12:07 PM »

In similar vein:

Obama could have done terrible things AND Trump can do terrible things.

Trump should be impeached/resign AND Hilary would have been one of the worst presidents in history had she gotten the job.

etc.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #12156 on: May 17, 2017, 04:26:03 PM »

In similar vein:

Obama could have done terrible things AND Trump can do terrible things.

Trump should be impeached/resign AND Hilary would have been one of the worst presidents in history had she gotten the job.

etc.

Absolutely agree. Lets see where things head with Trump and if warranted get rid of him. It is very premature to be even discussing that. By their having been bringing it up even before inauguration the Dems have made it more difficult to make it reality. Their calling themselves resistance is similar counterproductive. 
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #12157 on: May 17, 2017, 04:48:21 PM »
While you are going with thinly sourced stories start with Seth Rich.

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #12158 on: May 17, 2017, 04:50:21 PM »
https://t.co/qyalPX5FEX
Did Trump Pull an Obama?
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #12159 on: May 17, 2017, 05:52:36 PM »
"It's just another scandal that unfortunately continues every it's now accelerating. Watergate took months. This thing seems to be taking hours," McCain said Wednesday.
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