US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Did he ever condemn the KKK?

I would guess, yes.

[aygart]

I would guess, yes.

Don't guess. Trump did denounce the KKK but now everyone is upset that it wasn't fast enough or sincere enough or whatever. Find me where Obama denounced the KKK or said anything about their violence during his presidency.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Don't guess. Trump did denounce the KKK but now everyone is upset that it wasn't fast enough or sincere enough or whatever. Find me where Obama denounced the KKK or said anything about their violence during his presidency.

Did they bomb a church or something during his presidency or did I miss something?

ETA: What terrorist acts did the KKK commit while BO was in office?

[Baruch]

Must Watch
http://digg.com/2017/vice-news-charlottesville-episode

[ilherman]

The idea that Trump needs to think before opening his mouth? I mean please, even his biggest supporters loved him for the fact that he has no filter and "tells it like it is."

Trump worrying about causing chaos? What rock have you been living under.

Trump needs to condemn hate and not name names? Well geez, when did that change? That is one of Trump's - and the right's - biggest talking points. Rightly so, IMHO. If you can't recognize the evil and name it, you can't fight it.

But anyway, he did NOT condemn them equally on both sides. He made a half hearted comment about bigotry and said "both sides" with a wave like  a parent patronizing squabbling siblings. If he wanted to condemn hate and bigotry from both sides, he could have easily spelled out K.K.K. and A.N.T.I.F.A.

If he did indeed sufficiently condemn both sides initially, why then did he do his condemnation 2.0 yesterday? He certainly couldn't care less about what the press was saying - he tells it like it is without worrying about being PC, remember?

It's because he wasn't condemning anyone the first time round. He was doing the same thing he has done numerous times previously when faced with condemning the Alt Right - delay delay delay delay delay until he finally condemns. That way he gets his condemnation in, and also gets the Alt Right to believe, rightly, that he was only doing it for the press, but doesn't really mean it.

Today, his off script outburst revealed that to be true. He spoke about the good of the Alt Right not because he wants to ALSO condemn Antifa, but because he supports the identity politics of the Alt Right.

You are so illusioned that you just go on and on with your illusions instead of addressing the issues. For that reason I will explain my case just once more and I am done. I see there are 5 more pages now to read which I don't have time anyway..   

I already said there is a difference when trying to win over a political opponent  by calling him low energy Jeb and speaking about a high profile cases. He doesn't wanna have the same history of BHO who always called out the white before knowing facts.  And again again and again. He said there is hate and both sites and we should not tolerate it. He later called them out by name. He then again said the bottom line that there was hate on both sides and bottom line is that they both did equal violence and called them out.   Yes he was not afraid to call out the נעבעכדיגע left like all other politicians and the MSM is going nuts. And he actually told it to them yesterday. he said "I am calling out the left for being violante as well and you and the media don't like it" Then they were trying to interrupt him "wait a minute, i'm not finished, i'm not finish fake news. Priceless. And I will repeat There is moral equivalency for the relevant acts, which is getting together, year after year, to fight each other in us cities.  That one group is objectively worse is not relevant.

[aygart]

Did they bomb a church or something during his presidency or did I miss something?

ETA: What terrorist acts did the KKK commit while BO was in office?

They stabbed counter protesters. Similar to ramming with a car.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/27/us/kkk-rally-in-anaheim-violence/index.html

[ChaimMoskowitz]

They stabbed counter protesters. Similar to ramming with a car.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/27/us/kkk-rally-in-anaheim-violence/index.html

People were stabbed on both sides. I am talking about a one-sided terrorist/hate attack.

[aygart]

People were stabbed on both sides. I am talking about a one-sided terrorist/hate attack.

Here too the counter protesters were violent.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Here too the counter protesters were violent.

Counter protesters ran them over with a car? Killed someone? What am I missing?

[aygart]

Counter protesters ran them over with a car? Killed someone? What am I missing?

Beat with clubs.

[TimT]

Counter protesters ran them over with a car? Killed someone? What am I missing?

Violated their civil rights. Attempted murder. Terrorists on both sides

[yuneeq]

Queen, knight and pawn all have him in check at the same time. Not possible in chess.

Kim Jong don't play by the rules, yet still loses.

[churnbabychurn]

https://youtu.be/t16xYMSyMXU

End is genius!

[aygart]

[yuneeq]

[aygart]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/23-minutes-of-trump-1502908036

[Baruch]

https://www.mediaite.com/online/watch-the-neo-nazi-from-vice-charlottesville-documentary-weep-im-terrified/


wawawawa!

[Baruch]

Can someone please explain to me how Birtherism is racist.

Why is it always called a racist accusation?

[TimT]

Can someone please explain to me how Birtherism is racist.

Why is it always called a racist accusation?

Always look at the skin color

[avromie7]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/23-minutes-of-trump-1502908036

https://t.co/8vjdMSz2JX Same article, no paywall