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Trump walks in a room.

1. Moshe123 shoots at him because he is pure evil, 2. ilherman+hachover jump in front of the bullets because Trump is our savior. 3. aygart tackles Moshe123 because Trump is better than HRC, 4. but Baruch can't stand Trump so he tells aygart he's crazy and Trump is a madman. 5. ExGingi would like to point out that who cares what he is, all that matters is the supreme court nominations. 6. Dan and others aren't really sure how this makes them feel plus they don't really want to drink poison. 7. Spoiler alert: Moshe123's gun was empty, it was just a blank.

And Freddie is in the back of the room just cooking his cholent. Until he announces that there are TWO menu choices, Pareve Cholent or Vegetable Lasagna. While etech0 figured out that they are both poisoned.


Repeat x100.

And then Hilary walks into the room with the most confidence a candidate has had in recent history. She is so confident that she eats both the Pareve Cholent and Vegetable Lasagna. Everyone is the room is aghast, they don't know how this happened, could it be Comey is behind this poisoning or was it that her Obamacare premiums were to high to get her the help she needed.

Everyone stared as she choked and was cast into oblivion on November, 8, 2016 the last day she was heard from in the public eye.

Moshe123, ilherman, hachover, Baruch, ExGingi, Dan, Freddie, etech0, and the rest of America are in total shock and hope that so long as Trump doesn't eat any Pareve Cholent and Vegetable Lasagna and stays true to his supreme court nominees this may be the greatest thing to happen since the CSR and GC's.

But remember this may be the beginning of the end...

P.S. Thanks to cognitive dissonance aygart, Michael Moore, and Scott Adams knew the whole time that Trump could win, unfortunately for JTZ he may be off DDF for the next 4 years due to his mandatory 3 times daily consumption of CROW!

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Sub notes:

Nov 8 : Time to edit the wiki. Biggest upset in American History according to Michael Isikoff.


http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=57647.0

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5952.html
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump?lang=en
http://blog.dilbert.com/
http://fivethirtyeight.com/
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As things turns out, the most prescient view on this election was that of Michael Moore! Though Scott Adams is also claiming a high view level of prescience.


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Clinton
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Johnson
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Other (Write in)
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I don't vote in general and won't be voting this year
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Author Topic: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread  (Read 3768750 times)

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #13201 on: August 16, 2017, 04:16:22 PM »
Can someone please explain to me how Birtherism is racist.

Why is it always called a racist accusation?
When something is so outrageous you look for other reasons. Just like those that believe the moon landing never happened.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #13202 on: August 16, 2017, 04:44:30 PM »
Ouch! It seems you are not a big fan of blacks.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #13204 on: August 16, 2017, 05:25:16 PM »
Can someone please explain to me how Birtherism is racist.

Why is it always called a racist accusation?
When you have a winning card you play it whenever you can. Same way the election was racist backlash to Obama's presidency. And disdain for Hilary was because bigots couldnt stand seeing a woman in power.

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #13205 on: August 16, 2017, 05:44:26 PM »
And disdain for Hilary was because bigots couldnt stand seeing a woman in power.
Hilary had a lot of flaws people could pick from.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #13206 on: August 16, 2017, 05:46:15 PM »
Hilary had a lot of flaws people could pick from.

And yet not supporting her was blamed on misogyny

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #13207 on: August 16, 2017, 05:47:36 PM »
Hilary had a lot of flaws people could pick from.
And as my liberal friend said, the only reason people held those flaws against her was because she a woman, otherwise they'd over look her flaws.

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #13208 on: August 16, 2017, 06:01:45 PM »
And as my liberal friend said, the only reason people held those flaws against her was because she a woman, otherwise they'd over look her flaws.
I would expect a liberal to over look them but I could not.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #13209 on: August 16, 2017, 06:02:55 PM »
I would expect a liberal to over look them but I could not.
Do you think she would be doing a better job than trump right now?

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #13210 on: August 16, 2017, 06:04:16 PM »
Do you think she would be doing a better job than trump right now?
Yes but that isn't saying much.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #13211 on: August 16, 2017, 06:09:45 PM »
Yes but that isn't saying much.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #13212 on: August 16, 2017, 07:18:18 PM »
https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-raises-big-questions-about-last-years-dnc-hack/

  • There was no hack of the Democratic National Committee’s system on July 5 last year—not by the Russians, not by anyone else. Hard science now demonstrates it was a leak—a download executed locally with a memory key or a similarly portable data-storage device. In short, it was an inside job by someone with access to the DNC’s system. This casts serious doubt on the initial “hack,” as alleged, that led to the very consequential publication of a large store of documents on WikiLeaks last summer.
  • Forensic investigations of documents made public two weeks prior to the July 5 leak by the person or entity known as Guccifer 2.0 show that they were fraudulent: Before Guccifer posted them they were adulterated by cutting and pasting them into a blank template that had Russian as its default language. Guccifer took responsibility on June 15 for an intrusion the DNC reported on June 14 and professed to be a WikiLeaks source—claims essential to the official narrative implicating Russia in what was soon cast as an extensive hacking operation. To put the point simply, forensic science now devastates this narrative.
  • The metadata established several facts in this regard with granular precision: On the evening of July 5, 2016, 1,976 megabytes of data were downloaded from the DNC’s server. The operation took 87 seconds. This yields a transfer rate of 22.7 megabytes per second. These statistics are matters of record and essential to disproving the hack theory. No Internet service provider, such as a hacker would have had to use in mid-2016, was capable of downloading data at this speed. Compounding this contradiction, Guccifer claimed to have run his hack from Romania, which, for numerous reasons technically called delivery overheads, would slow down the speed of a hack even further from maximum achievable speeds.     
  • “A speed of 22.7 megabytes is simply unobtainable, especially if we are talking about a transoceanic data transfer,” Folden said. “Based on the data we now have, what we’ve been calling a hack is impossible.”
  • Time stamps in the metadata provide further evidence of what happened on July 5. The stamps recording the download indicate that it occurred in the Eastern Daylight Time Zone at approximately 6:45 pm. This confirms that the person entering the DNC system was working somewhere on the East Coast of the United States. In theory the operation could have been conducted from Bangor or Miami or anywhere in between—but not Russia, Romania, or anywhere else outside the EDT zone.
  • In addition, there is the adulteration of the documents Guccifer 2.0 posted on June 15, when he made his first appearance. This came to light when researchers penetrated what Folden calls Guccifer’s top layer of metadata and analyzed what was in the layers beneath. They found that the first five files Guccifer made public had each been run, via ordinary cut-and-paste, through a single template that effectively immersed them in what could plausibly be cast as Russian fingerprints. They were not: The Russian markings were artificially inserted prior to posting. “It’s clear,” another forensics investigator self-identified as HET, wrote in a report on this question, “that metadata was deliberately altered and documents were deliberately pasted into a Russianified [W]ord document with Russian language settings and style headings.”
  • In the meantime, VIPS has assembled a chronology that imposes a persuasive logic on the complex succession of events just reviewed. It is this:
  • On June 12 last year, Julian Assange announced that WikiLeaks had and would publish documents pertinent to Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign.
  • On June 14, CrowdStrike, a cyber-security firm hired by the DNC, announced, without providing evidence, that it had found malware on DNC servers and had evidence that Russians were responsible for planting it.
  • On June 15, Guccifer 2.0 first appeared, took responsibility for the “hack” reported on June 14 and claimed to be a WikiLeaks source. It then posted the adulterated documents just described.
  • On July 5, Guccifer again claimed he had remotely hacked DNC servers, and the operation was instantly described as another intrusion attributable to Russia. Virtually no media questioned this account.
  • It does not require too much thought to read into this sequence. With his June 12 announcement, Assange effectively put the DNC on notice that it had a little time, probably not much, to act preemptively against the imminent publication of damaging documents. Did the DNC quickly conjure Guccifer from thin air to create a cyber-saboteur whose fingers point to Russia? There is no evidence of this one way or the other, but emphatically it is legitimate to pose the question in the context of the VIPS chronology. WikiLeaks began publishing on July 22. By that time, the case alleging Russian interference in the 2016 elections process was taking firm root. In short order Assange would be written down as a “Russian agent.”
http://www.salon.com/2017/08/15/what-if-the-dnc-russian-hack-was-really-a-leak-after-all-a-new-report-raises-questions-media-and-democrats-would-rather-ignore/#.WZSyEJZ7EQY.twitter

The silence from mainstream outlets on this is interesting, if for no other reason than the information appears in a highly-regarded liberal magazine with a reputation for vigorous and thorough reporting — not some right-wing fringe conspiracy outlet carrying water for Donald Trump. Maybe the logic goes that if mainstream journalists leave this untouched, that alone will be enough to discredit it. True believers in the Russian hack narrative can point to Breitbart’s coverage to dismiss this new information without consideration. That is not good enough. Lawrence’s article, and the report behind it, deserves some proper attention.
« Last Edit: August 16, 2017, 07:53:57 PM by aygart »
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #13213 on: August 16, 2017, 07:19:43 PM »
https://www.frbatlanta.org/cqer/research/gdpnow.aspx?panel=1

The GDPNow model forecast for real GDP growth (seasonally adjusted annual rate) in the third quarter of 2017 is 3.8 percent on August 16, up from 3.7 percent on August 15. The forecast of third-quarter real residential investment growth increased from -0.5 percent to 3.7 percent after this morning's new residential construction report from the U.S. Census Bureau.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #13214 on: August 16, 2017, 07:19:45 PM »
Do you think she would be doing a better job than trump right now?
There's a reason we renamed this thread pick your poison...
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #13215 on: August 16, 2017, 07:28:27 PM »
There's a reason we renamed this thread pick your poison...
Would she be a slower acting poison?  :)
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #13216 on: August 16, 2017, 07:29:45 PM »
https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-raises-big-questions-about-last-years-dnc-hack/

  • There was no hack of the Democratic National Committee’s system on July 5 last year—not by the Russians, not by anyone else. Hard science now demonstrates it was a leak—a download executed locally with a memory key or a similarly portable data-storage device. In short, it was an inside job by someone with access to the DNC’s system. This casts serious doubt on the initial “hack,” as alleged, that led to the very consequential publication of a large store of documents on WikiLeaks last summer.
  • Forensic investigations of documents made public two weeks prior to the July 5 leak by the person or entity known as Guccifer 2.0 show that they were fraudulent: Before Guccifer posted them they were adulterated by cutting and pasting them into a blank template that had Russian as its default language. Guccifer took responsibility on June 15 for an intrusion the DNC reported on June 14 and professed to be a WikiLeaks source—claims essential to the official narrative implicating Russia in what was soon cast as an extensive hacking operation. To put the point simply, forensic science now devastates this narrative.

http://www.salon.com/2017/08/15/what-if-the-dnc-russian-hack-was-really-a-leak-after-all-a-new-report-raises-questions-media-and-democrats-would-rather-ignore/#.WZSyEJZ7EQY.twitter

The silence from mainstream outlets on this is interesting, if for no other reason than the information appears in a highly-regarded liberal magazine with a reputation for vigorous and thorough reporting — not some right-wing fringe conspiracy outlet carrying water for Donald Trump. Maybe the logic goes that if mainstream journalists leave this untouched, that alone will be enough to discredit it. True believers in the Russian hack narrative can point to Breitbart’s coverage to dismiss this new information without consideration. That is not good enough. Lawrence’s article, and the report behind it, deserves some proper attention.
Is Seth Rich now back on the table?
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #13217 on: August 16, 2017, 07:41:06 PM »
Is Seth Rich now back on the table?
Not yet, but only time will tell. It would be quite ironic if the Mueller investigation comes back with indictments against Dems for REAL obstruction and destruction of evidence.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #13218 on: August 16, 2017, 07:43:49 PM »
Is Seth Rich now back on the table?
He never was except for the Kool-Aid drinkers.  :)
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #13219 on: August 16, 2017, 07:49:13 PM »
There's a reason we renamed this thread pick your poison...
Not sure if youre reading an implications into my question-  there were none. It was a serious question out of pure curiosity.