US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread

[aygart]

Never said it was non-existent. Said they don't need to be linked. The reason they are linked is because of a bargaining position.

Unless someone feels that they need to be linked for other reasons.

[aygart]

I have seen reports where net immigration is negative. Something I give Trump credit for

What do you feel he did which made that happen?

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Trump's explanation is the only one which makes sense in the context here. What people are believing here seems highly correlated with their preconceived notions of Trump.

It does not matter if it was past, present or future tense. He is living in fantasy land.

The notion people have of Trump is based on his statements and actions and not some preconceived notion. 

[aygart]

It does not matter if it was past, present or future tense. He is living in fantasy land.

The notion people have of Trump is based on his statements and actions and not some preconceived notion. 

keyword "here"

[ChaimMoskowitz]

keyword "here"

Where?

[skyguy918]

Trump's explanation is the only one which makes sense in the context here. What people are believing here seems highly correlated with their preconceived notions of Trump.

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/952548317422071809

Personally, I don't think it was the worst thing in the world no matter which version you 'hear'. But what the heck are they hanging their hat on here? I vs I'd? That's such a big difference? Not to mention that in his tweet he pulled the word probably from his quote for some reason, despite apparently having the audio to check.

You want to tell me there's nothing wrong with what he said - okay, that's a discussion we can have. But to call out the WSJ and say they're fake news because they quoted him as saying I instead of I'd - which I don't really hear in the audio anyway - is ridiculous.

[aygart]

Where?

In what I wrote that you quoted

[aygart]

Personally, I don't think it was the worst thing in the world no matter which version you 'hear'. But what the heck are they hanging their hat on here? I vs I'd? That's such a big difference? Not to mention that in his tweet he pulled the word probably from his quote for some reason, despite apparently having the audio to check.

You want to tell me there's nothing wrong with what he said - okay, that's a discussion we can have. But to call out the WSJ and say they're fake news because they quoted him as saying I instead of I'd - which I don't really hear in the audio anyway - is ridiculous.

I never did anything of the sort.

[skyguy918]

I never did anything of the sort.

I'm commenting on Trump/Sanders' tweets, and the tweet you quoted.

[aygart]

I'm commenting on Trump/Sanders' tweets, and the tweet you quoted.

The tweet I quoted did not call WSJ fake news. He wrote that with technique he feels that this is what was said. That would not make someone who reported the way they heard it fake news.

[aygart]

[tweet]952845618979966976[/tweet]

http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/01/15/ivana-trump-donald-trump-hes-not-racist-he-stable-genius

"Is he a racist?" Morgan asked.

"I don't think Donald's racist at all. Sometimes he says these things which are silly or [that] he doesn't really mean," she said. "But he's definitely not racist."

"he says these things which are silly or [that] he doesn't really mean"

Ya don't say....

“I don’t think Donald is going to do anything irrational. He is a stable genius, definitely," she said.

Well there you have it.....

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Well there you have it.....

That seals the deal for me. 

[skyguy918]

The tweet I quoted did not call WSJ fake news. He wrote that with technique he feels that this is what was said. That would not make someone who reported the way they heard it fake news.

What are you, the quote police? It was the most recent post on the subject when I replied, and it contained a tweet that was explicit about the I/I'd thing. The rest of my reply was directed at Trump/Sanders, who did call them fake news.

[aygart]

What are you, the quote police? It was the most recent post on the subject when I replied, and it contained a tweet that was explicit about the I/I'd thing. The rest of my reply was directed at Trump/Sanders, who did call them fake news.

Okay fine, but why are you taking them calling something fake news seriously? That is almost like when the Dems say that people will die.

[aygart]

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-jackson-california-poverty-20180114-story.html

[ChaimMoskowitz]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/graham-my-memory-hasn-t-evolved-meeting-where-trump-referred-n837796?cid=par-xfinity_20180115

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Is there tapes?
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/schumer-i-totally-believe-durbin-over-trump/ar-AAuKtvq?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=ientp

[aygart]

This is what sounds the most plausible.

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/953298639291604992

[skyguy918]

This is what sounds the most plausible.

What's amazing to me is that even in the the judiciary committee they're wasting their time on the 'vulgar' part instead of the 'racist' part (which Leahy himself mentions but then ignores).

Basically, what we see time and time again is that the administration and the Republican party has specific policy goals and positions, as well as strategies for avoiding the political landmines that may accompany those issues. Whenever Trump gets directly involved, he manages to step right on those landmines.

[TimT]

Congrats CM, JTZ & aygart. This thread is now the longest one on the forums. L’chaim & MAGA