Author Topic: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread (Read 3861355 times)

aygart · « **Reply #19440 on:** April 11, 2018, 10:14:11 AM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on April 11, 2018, 09:34:09 AM

If you want post a link the least you can do is make sure it works. Do make us jump through hoops. That seems like common sense.

I had no issue getting to the article through google with this search

https://www.google.com/search?q=monmouth+university+fox+news&oq=monmouth+university+fox+news&aqs=chrome..69i57.9285j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

If you are having issues i can make suggestions how to get around it such as using incognito but cannot do much if I can't replicate the issue.

aygart · « **Reply #19441 on:** April 11, 2018, 10:16:17 AM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on April 11, 2018, 09:20:25 AM

I tried but can't get to the WP link you posted.

Fox News host Howard Kurtz blasted reports that said his Sunday show mistakenly posted a graphic that showed the cable network is less trusted than its competitors.

“The Associated Press should be embarrassed by a story that utterly distorts what happened yesterday on my program ‘Media Buzz,’ ” Kurtz wrote Monday on Facebook. The news agency had published a story with the headline, “Fox News mistakenly posts graphic showing it lags in trust,” which has since been corrected.

On Sunday, Kurtz had been talking about a new Monmouth University poll on “fake news” and American trust in the media when a graphic appeared on-screen.

“Do the media report fake news regularly or occasionally,” Kurtz said. “Seventy-seven percent say yes.”

“WHO DO YOU TRUST MORE?” the graphic's banner said, and listed Fox News at 30 percent, while competitors CNN and MSNBC came in at 48 percent and 45 percent respectively.

Kurtz quickly noticed.

“This is not the graphic we’re looking for,” he said. “Hold off. Take that down please.”

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The poll numbers were on air for less than six seconds, enough time for plenty of other people to take note.

CNN host Chris Cuomo also picked up on the news, sharing a Raw Story headline reading: “Watch Fox host Howard Kurtz panic after graphic shows Fox News is least trusted network.”

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'Take that down!': Watch Fox host Howard Kurtz after graphic shows Fox News least trusted https://www.rawstory.com/?p=1251289 via rawstory haha aside, the real ‘raw’ story is from Trump on down the main political currency is tearing down anything you disagree with as fake.

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‘Take that down!’: Watch Fox host Howard Kurtz panic after graphic shows Fox News is least trusted...
In what was undoubtedly a painful moment on Fox News this morning, media analyst Howard Kurtz frantically implored his producer to take down a graphic that showed Fox is the least trusted of the big...

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Except that's not what the graphic shows.

The three cable networks were not being compared to each other; instead, poll respondents were asked to compare each network to Trump as a trusted source of information.

Monmouth found that 30 percent of people trust Fox News more than they trust President Trump; 20 percent of poll respondents said trust the president more than they do the network. Thirty-seven percent said they trust both equally.

As staff on the Trump administration continue to resign or be fired, President Trump is turning to a familiar arena to fill staff. (joyce koh/The Washington Post)

This is an obvious explanation: Fox’s viewership leans conservative, so it’s more likely to believe what Trump says — even more than its preferred cable news channel. That CNN and MSNBC viewers place more trust in their outlet over Trump is probably more a reflection of their viewers not trusting Trump rather than the relative quality of their journalism.

Fox News’s Twitter account shared the “Media Buzz” segment. (Watch the moment below beginning at the 1:58 mark.)

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On Facebook, Kurtz explained what happened.

“During the segment, the control room mistakenly posted the graphic early, while I was dealing with the fake news questions. So I calmly asked that it be taken down,” Kurtz wrote. “About a minute later, I asked for the graphic to be put back on the screen and discussed the finding with my guest, pollster Frank Luntz.”

In a statement Monday, Kurtz told The Washington Post that he “was disappointed when I saw the AP story because I thought the journalists there had higher standards than to just recycle online partisan garbage without asking for comment. But I do appreciate the correction.”

AP spokeswoman Lauren Easton said in an email statement that the story “was corrected to show that the graphic was taken down because it was used in the wrong segment, and was used again on the show.”

Fox News was the most-watched basic cable network in the first quarter of 2018, followed by MSNBC, according to Adweek. CNN was seventh for the total day and 11th for prime time.

The Monmouth poll, published April 2, came with a dire message for journalists.

The percentage of Americans who say that traditional major television outlets and newspapers report “fake news” at least occasionally rose to 77 percent from 63 percent the year before, Monmouth said in a statement. “Fake news” isn’t just about factual errors but also applies to “how news outlets make editorial decisions about what they choose to report.”

“These findings are troubling, no matter how you define ‘fake news,’ ” said Patrick Murray, director of the independent Monmouth University Polling Institute. “Confidence in an independent Fourth Estate is a cornerstone of a healthy democracy. Ours appears to be headed for the intensive care unit.”

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A graphic that appeared during a segment of the Fox News show “Media Buzz” on Sunday.

aygart · « **Reply #19442 on:** April 11, 2018, 10:30:31 AM »

Of course it is one thing for someone to post such a video on a forum where there are no journalistic standards expected. For the AP to just post it without doing any research as to whether or not the poll actually shows anything about the credibility of Fox News is part of the problem of why the media is losing credibility.

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #19443 on:** April 11, 2018, 10:31:44 AM »

Quote from: aygart on April 11, 2018, 10:16:17 AM

Fox News host Howard Kurtz blasted reports that said his Sunday show mistakenly posted a graphic that showed the cable network is less trusted than its competitors.

Thanks.

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #19444 on:** April 11, 2018, 10:33:40 AM »

They are jumping ship left and right!!!
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/paul-ryan-wont-seek-re-election/ar-AAvL073?ocid=ientp

Trump is toxic even to the R's.

aygart · « **Reply #19445 on:** April 11, 2018, 10:39:15 AM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on April 11, 2018, 10:33:40 AM

Trump is toxic ~~even~~ especially to the R's.

FTFY

aygart · « **Reply #19446 on:** April 11, 2018, 10:53:27 AM »

Shabbos Totty?

https://twitter.com/TheOtherKeppler/status/984073415488409600

aygart · « **Reply #19447 on:** April 11, 2018, 10:54:51 AM »

https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/984073519527952384

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #19448 on:** April 11, 2018, 11:14:15 AM »

The fact is the only things Trump can get done (good and bad) is by executive order. When it comes to legislation he is clueless.

aygart · « **Reply #19449 on:** April 11, 2018, 11:44:50 AM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on April 11, 2018, 11:14:15 AM

The fact is the only things Trump can get done (good and bad) is by executive order. When it comes to legislation he is clueless.

+10000000000000

But not just executive order but also regulation.

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #19450 on:** April 11, 2018, 02:34:44 PM »

Syria moving/hiding its military equipment. Why would the president telegraph what we are going to do?

avromie7 · « **Reply #19451 on:** April 11, 2018, 03:47:59 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on April 11, 2018, 02:34:44 PM

Syria moving/hiding its military equipment. Why would the president telegraph what we are going to do?

I know you don't like comparing, but overall he's being a lot more discreet and unpredictable than his predecessor.

precise · « **Reply #19452 on:** April 11, 2018, 03:59:11 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on April 11, 2018, 02:34:44 PM

Syria moving/hiding its military equipment. Why would the president telegraph what we are going to do?

I thought he's playing with the Syrians/Russians, looks like he is playing with you!

aygart · « **Reply #19453 on:** April 11, 2018, 04:05:02 PM »

This is a whole long ongoing thread of his and the whole thing is worth seeing but here are a few.

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https://twitter.com/HeshmatAlavi/status/984042118837612550

https://twitter.com/HeshmatAlavi/status/984091329956335616

https://twitter.com/HeshmatAlavi/status/984114855237046273

aygart · « **Reply #19454 on:** April 11, 2018, 04:08:45 PM »

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/984148075987001345

Jellybelly · « **Reply #19455 on:** April 11, 2018, 04:33:30 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on April 11, 2018, 02:34:44 PM

Syria moving/hiding its military equipment. Why would the president telegraph what we are going to do?

“you can run but you can’t hide!”

aygart · « **Reply #19456 on:** April 11, 2018, 04:33:36 PM »

https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/984136953502330881

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #19457 on:** April 11, 2018, 04:33:47 PM »

Quote from: precise on April 11, 2018, 03:59:11 PM

I thought he's playing with the Syrians/Russians, looks like he is playing with you!

Then he is a bigger idiot than I thought.

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #19458 on:** April 11, 2018, 04:37:03 PM »

Quote from: avromie7 on April 11, 2018, 03:47:59 PM

I know you don't like comparing, but overall he's being a lot more discreet and unpredictable than his predecessor.

Compare all you want. If your defense is the comparability then you are admitting defeat to the point being made.
When are you and the Trumpeters going realize I don't defend these other idiot decisions.

aygart · « **Reply #19459 on:** April 11, 2018, 04:39:31 PM »

https://twitter.com/HeshmatAlavi/status/984167986700398592

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