US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread

[aygart]

This is reported by the WP. Is it accurate? @aygart

Although Horowitz criticized the very public way that Comey handled the probe, the inspector general concluded that the investigation itself — and the ultimate recommendation not to charge Clinton — were sound. Horowitz found “no evidence that the conclusions by department prosecutors were affected by bias or other improper considerations.”

#FakeNews. I did not see anywhere that it discussed the reasoning behind whether or not to charge her. What does it mean that they didn't find evidence that specific actions were affected by bias? By reading the report it does not mean that they is no reason to believe their decisions were biased, quite the contrary. The report keeps going back to "appearance of bias" and specifically mention that they do not have confidence that certain decisions were not affected by bias. It only means that they have no evidence that any specific action was directly affected. No one wrote that they were going to do something just because they like Hillary or dislike Trump.

[aygart]

Manafort: Do not pass go, do not collect 200, go straight to jail.

+1000000000

[aygart]

Was there different rules for this report than the last one? Last one they found McCabe lied and said that in a PC way. This report in no way shape or form said Comey lied about anything.


Full disclosure: I have not read one word of the report. I am relying on FOX to give me all the bad things about the report.

Why the fixation on lying?

[ChaimMoskowitz]

#FakeNews. I did not see anywhere that it discussed the reasoning behind whether or not to charge her. What does it mean that they didn't find evidence that specific actions were affected by bias? By reading the report it does not mean that they is no reason to believe their decisions were biased, quite the contrary. The report keeps going back to "appearance of bias" and specifically mention that they do not have confidence that certain decisions were not affected by bias. It only means that they have no evidence that any specific action was directly affected. No one wrote that they were going to do something just because they like Hillary or dislike Trump.

You are going way out of your way to twist what the WP reported. I will make this simple.
Did the report in any way shape or form say the decision to not charge HRC was "sound"?
Did the report say “no evidence that the conclusions by department prosecutors were affected by bias or other improper considerations.”
Both of these are simple yes or no answers.

[aygart]

You are going way out of your way to twist what the WP reported. I will make this simple.
Did the report in any way shape or form say the decision to not charge HRC was "sound"?
Did the report say “no evidence that the conclusions by department prosecutors were affected by bias or other improper considerations.”
Both of these are simple yes or no answers.

The answer to the first is not that I saw. The second needs the context of 400 pages discussing how they mixed politics into their discussions about the investigation and that 5 agents were referred for investigation about that besides those who are no longer employed by the FBI. No you are wrong about that being a yes or no answer. The words are there but they are taking them out of context.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

The answer to the first is not that I saw. The second needs the context of 400 pages discussing how they mixed politics into their discussions about the investigation and that 5 agents were referred for investigation about that besides those who are no longer employed by the FBI. No you are wrong about that being a yes or no answer. The words are there but they are taking them out of context.

Thank you!
I am going to translate that now into first question answer is no and second question answer is yes.
Subject to change with more reading.

This says it all for me!
ETA: Christopher Wray — appointed by Trump to replace Comey last year — said at a Thursday afternoon press conference that “this report did not find any evidence of political bias or improper considerations actually impacting the investigation under review.”

[aygart]

Thank you!
I am going to translate that now into first question answer is no and second question answer is yes.
Subject to change with more reading.

This says it all for me!
ETA: Christopher Wray — appointed by Trump to replace Comey last year — said at a Thursday afternoon press conference that “this report did not find any evidence of political bias or improper considerations actually impacting the investigation under review.”

This is simply childish to say that the words are there and the context is meaningless. Grow up!

[ChaimMoskowitz]

This is simply childish to say that the words are there and the context is meaningless. Grow up!

The thing is context does matter. The problem is you are going to put your spin on the context. I like goalpost so individuals like you can't always wiggle out of things with your non-sense.

I choose to go with Chris Wray on this one. You going to try to unsuccessful vilify him like you tried with Comey?

[aygart]

The thing is context does matter. The problem is you are going to put your spin on the context. I like goalpost so individuals like you can't always wiggle out of things with your non-sense.

I choose to go with Chris Wray on this one. You going to try to unsuccessful vilify him like you tried with Comey?

How about you take a look at the report and use that as you supposed goalpost instead of using an appeal to authority? Use your head not someone else's! Taking something out of context IS SPIN! I have very studiously kept away from anything anyone wrote to let the report itself lead me. I couldn't care less which spinmaster you chose to relinquish your brain to. And yes, Wray is spinning. What else was the purpose of making a presser?

[ChaimMoskowitz]

How about you take a look at the report and use that as you supposed goalpost instead of using an appeal to authority? Use your head not someone else's! Taking something out of context IS SPIN! I have very studiously kept away from anything anyone wrote to let the report itself lead me. I couldn't care less which spinmaster you chose to relinquish your brain to. And yes, Wray is spinning. What else was the purpose of making a presser?

You have some nerve saying I have relinquish my mind. This coming from someone who can't make simple decisions without asking someone else. 

[aygart]

https://www.ourpursuit.com/money-in-the-banana-stand-a-congressional-deception-illustrated/

[ChaimMoskowitz]

They need to clarify R's and Trumpsters.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/poll-republicans-approve-of-trump’s-family-separation-policy/ar-AAyMSf2?ocid=spartandhp

[ilherman]

Manafort: Do not pass go, do not collect 200, go straight to jail.
I guess this means Mueller's probe is not producing results. 

Why the Efin hell am I paying 20mm dollars for this idiot to "produce results" of criminal charges that are charged in every court, every day in the country? He was ordered to investigate Russian Collusion. He can not find a shred of evidence of Trump Russia collusion and he wants CM to be able to say look he got something so he takes someone, charges him for nothing to do with this investigation, now CM can say look Mueller is doing a great job. To waste 20mm dollars for this is a disgrace. And I'm outraged. I wanna jump out of my skin every time I see the fake news saying "how can Trump say this is a witch hunt, this has already brought to major indictments, like Paul Manafort"

Really? Really? This only proves even more that this is a witch hunt.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

He was ordered to investigate Russian Collusion.

#fakenews AKA: Hannity

[Yammer]

Manafort: Do not pass go, do not collect 200, go straight to jail.
I guess this means Mueller's probe is not producing results. 

He's an idiot.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Can someone link to the law that says you must separate children from their mothers when they cross the border illegally?


I will save you the time. There is no such law. #fakenews Trump / Hannity / @ilherman

[ilherman]

Can someone post a link to the law that allegedly witness tempering goes to jail?

I will save you the time. There is no such law. #fakenews

#maddow / @ChaimMoskowitz

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Can someone post a link to the law that allegedly witness tempering goes to jail?

I will save you the time. There is no such law. #fakenews

#maddow / @ChaimMoskowitz

The problem is you believe Hannity like the Torah and I believe Maddow like Ripley's Believe It Or Not!!!


Keep your head buried in the sand.

[BP16]

Can someone link to the law that says you must separate children from their mothers when they cross the border illegally?


I will save you the time. There is no such law. #fakenews Trump / Hannity / @ilherman

Yes when they cross the border illegally with there children its child abuse! and they should be separated not to cause more harm to there children.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Yes when they cross the border illegally with there children its child abuse! and they should be separated not to cause more harm to there children.

Try reading comprehension 101.