Author Topic: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread (Read 3829554 times)

yesitsme · « **Reply #21440 on:** June 22, 2018, 04:25:29 PM »

Quote from: shaulyaakov on June 22, 2018, 04:17:49 PM

I'm sure as a % of crimes committed in the US, people killed by illegal immigrants is tiny.

Throw out all legal citizens, btw many accidents happens with licensed drivers it's pointless they should let everyone drive even withou a license.

shaulyaakov · « **Reply #21441 on:** June 22, 2018, 04:28:57 PM »

Quote from: yesitsme on June 22, 2018, 04:25:29 PM

Throw out all legal citizens, btw many accidents happens with licensed drivers it's pointless they should let everyone drive even withou a license.

Being an illegal immigrant doesn't make anyone more predisposed to murder. Driving without a license makes people more predisposed to get in an accident.

aygart · « **Reply #21442 on:** June 22, 2018, 04:37:10 PM »

Quote from: shaulyaakov on June 22, 2018, 04:28:57 PM

Being an illegal immigrant doesn't make anyone more predisposed to murder.

Maybe, maybe not. Keep in mind that they do not have the same respect for the law as "law-abiding citizens" by the mere virtue of their having come here in the first place. That can possibly lead them down the roads of shadier activities which can lead to higher criminality. Again, you can speculate or you can back yourself up with real facts. As long as you are speculating that reflects the world as you would like it to be and not necessarily as it actually is.

aygart · « **Reply #21443 on:** June 22, 2018, 04:37:28 PM »

White House Office of Management and Budget Director Mick Mulvaney describing the need for government reform at a Thursday meeting of the President’s cabinet:

If you make a cheese pizza, it’s governed by the Food and Drug Administration. If you put a pepperoni on it, that’s governed by the USDA. If you have a chicken, it’s governed by the USDA. If that chicken lays an egg, it’s governed by the FDA. But if you break the egg and make it into an omelet, that is now covered again by the USDA.

If you have an open-face roast beef sandwich, that’s one or the other. But if you put the bread on top of it, it’s the other one. A hot dog -- the hot dog meat is governed by one. You put it in a bun, it’s governed by the other. One of my favorites: If you have a saltwater fish -- you have a salmon, and it’s in the ocean, it’s governed by the Department of Commerce. Once it swims up river, it’s governed by the Department of the Interior. And to get there, it has to go up a fish ladder governed by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers...

A long time ago, when I was 15 years old, I worked in a freezer for a guy that made frozen pizzas... Put yourself in that guy’s business. And one day he’s making cheese pizzas, and in the afternoon, he’s going to make pepperoni. He’s got an entirely different federal agency to deal with, an entirely different process...

We talked about... the Department of Education and the Department of Labor being merged. We think that makes tremendous sense because what are they both doing? They’re doing the same thing. They’re trying to get people ready for the workforce. Sometimes that’s education, sometimes it’s vocational training. But we’re all doing the same thing, so why not put them in the same place?... We don’t even know how many job training programs we have. Some people think it’s 40, some people think it’s 46, some people think it’s 47.

shaulyaakov · « **Reply #21444 on:** June 22, 2018, 04:40:29 PM »

Quote from: aygart on June 22, 2018, 04:37:28 PM

White House Office of Management and Budget Director Mick Mulvaney describing the need for government reform at a Thursday meeting of the President’s cabinet:

If you make a cheese pizza, it’s governed by the Food and Drug Administration. If you put a pepperoni on it, that’s governed by the USDA. If you have a chicken, it’s governed by the USDA. If that chicken lays an egg, it’s governed by the FDA. But if you break the egg and make it into an omelet, that is now covered again by the USDA.

If you have an open-face roast beef sandwich, that’s one or the other. But if you put the bread on top of it, it’s the other one. A hot dog -- the hot dog meat is governed by one. You put it in a bun, it’s governed by the other. One of my favorites: If you have a saltwater fish -- you have a salmon, and it’s in the ocean, it’s governed by the Department of Commerce. Once it swims up river, it’s governed by the Department of the Interior. And to get there, it has to go up a fish ladder governed by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers...

A long time ago, when I was 15 years old, I worked in a freezer for a guy that made frozen pizzas... Put yourself in that guy’s business. And one day he’s making cheese pizzas, and in the afternoon, he’s going to make pepperoni. He’s got an entirely different federal agency to deal with, an entirely different process...

We talked about... the Department of Education and the Department of Labor being merged. We think that makes tremendous sense because what are they both doing? They’re doing the same thing. They’re trying to get people ready for the workforce. Sometimes that’s education, sometimes it’s vocational training. But we’re all doing the same thing, so why not put them in the same place?... We don’t even know how many job training programs we have. Some people think it’s 40, some people think it’s 46, some people think it’s 47.

At least he can name the agencies he wants to eliminate.

skyguy918 · « **Reply #21445 on:** June 22, 2018, 06:08:49 PM »

Quote from: aygart on June 22, 2018, 04:37:10 PM

Maybe, maybe not. Keep in mind that they do not have the same respect for the law as "law-abiding citizens" by the mere virtue of their having come here in the first place. That can possibly lead them down the roads of shadier activities which can lead to higher criminality. Again, you can speculate or you can back yourself up with real facts. As long as you are speculating that reflects the world as you would like it to be and not necessarily as it actually is.

Oh the irony...

Where are your numbers for your speculation.

aygart · « **Reply #21446 on:** June 22, 2018, 06:12:18 PM »

Quote from: skyguy918 on June 22, 2018, 06:08:49 PM

Oh the irony...

Where are your numbers for your speculation.

I am not making any claim at all. I wrote that one can speculate either way. He may well be right. I would love it to be so since I am pro immigration.

shaulyaakov · « **Reply #21447 on:** June 22, 2018, 06:16:38 PM »

Quote from: aygart on June 22, 2018, 06:12:18 PM

I am not making any claim at all. I wrote that one can speculate either way. He may well be right. I would love it to be so since I am pro immigration.

"The data suggests that immigrants, including immigrants in the country illegally, actually commit crimes at lower rates than native-born Americans. But Trump has consistently rejected that idea, instead choosing to hype vague assertions that immigrants are more dangerous"

www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/06/22/the-original-source-for-trumps-claim-of-63000-immigrant-murders-bad-data-from-steve-king-in-2005/

yesitsme · « **Reply #21448 on:** June 22, 2018, 06:52:35 PM »

https://twitter.com/JakeTurx/status/1010225626802991104

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #21449 on:** June 23, 2018, 04:27:52 PM »

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-dems-conditions-for-kids-at-border-center-are-cruel-and-inhumane/ar-AAz49i5?ocid=spartandhp

aygart · « **Reply #21450 on:** June 23, 2018, 10:18:49 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on June 23, 2018, 04:27:52 PM

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-dems-conditions-for-kids-at-border-center-are-cruel-and-inhumane/ar-AAz49i5?ocid=spartandhp

It takes time to clean up Obama's mess

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #21451 on:** June 23, 2018, 10:34:06 PM »

Quote from: aygart on June 23, 2018, 10:18:49 PM

It takes time to clean up Obama's mess

Then he should not have tried his zero tolerance bluff. I wonder if he is done eating all that crow.
I guess he doesn't care about the kids just like his wife, DO U?

aygart · « **Reply #21452 on:** June 23, 2018, 10:47:02 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on June 23, 2018, 10:34:06 PM

Then he should not have tried his zero tolerance bluff. I wonder if he is done eating all that crow.
I guess he doesn't care about the kids just like his wife, DO U?

Which politician actually does care?

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #21453 on:** June 23, 2018, 11:04:28 PM »

Quote from: aygart on June 23, 2018, 10:47:02 PM

Which politician actually does care?

Here we go again.

aygart · « **Reply #21454 on:** June 23, 2018, 11:08:21 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on June 23, 2018, 11:04:28 PM

Here we go again.

Why else would it be that they only care now and never did until now when the conditions were the same?

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #21455 on:** June 23, 2018, 11:14:34 PM »

Quote from: aygart on June 23, 2018, 11:08:21 PM

Why else would it be that they only care now and never did until now when the conditions were the same?

Please save your stupid questions for Friday.

aygart · « **Reply #21456 on:** June 23, 2018, 11:41:40 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on June 23, 2018, 11:14:34 PM

Please save your stupid questions for Friday.

You don't need to like it but it is the obvious truth.

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #21457 on:** June 24, 2018, 07:52:05 AM »

Quote from: aygart on June 23, 2018, 11:41:40 PM

You don't need to like it but it is the obvious truth.

Maybe in your world.

aygart · « **Reply #21458 on:** June 24, 2018, 09:38:53 AM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on June 24, 2018, 07:52:05 AM

Maybe in your world.

We already know that you are in denial, but when someone only cares when they can use their faux outrage for their advantage that shows they don't really care.

When they show outrage at pictures from years ago and try to use them against the current president and not the one under whom they actually happened that shows they don't really care.

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #21459 on:** June 24, 2018, 09:45:24 AM »

Quote from: aygart on June 24, 2018, 09:38:53 AM

We already know that you are in denial, but when someone only cares when they can use their faux outrage for their advantage that shows they don't really care.

When they show outrage at pictures from years ago and try to use them against the current president and not the one under whom they actually happened that shows they don't really care.

In your world all politicians are liars or this or that. I guess in your mind that makes you better since you are not a politician. You really need to get out in the real world.

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