US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread

[aygart]

Democrats and Republicans should reject any nominee who won't uphold our Constitution and our basic human rights, and who would vote to overturn Roe v. Wade.

Elections have consequences. The last Supreme Court vacancy was brazenly stolen by shameless Republican leaders with no respect for American democracy. We cannot let that happen again. This November, you won't just be deciding the next Congress, you will be deciding the direction America goes in for the next half-century.

If the last year and a half have made you angry, there's something you can do right now: Donate $3 before Saturday's deadline to help elect Democrats up and down the ballot.

Let's go,

Tom

Tom Perez
Chair
Democratic National Committee

[ChaimMoskowitz]

$3? They must be D's!

[aygart]

$3? They must be D's!

The R fundraisers are the same.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Can the Trumpsters explain this one to me? I am sure this is a positive development, no?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/north-korea-continues-construction-of-nuclear-research-facility-despite-agreement-to-denuclearize-report/ar-AAzfIrX?ocid=spartanntp

[Yammer]

It is very scary that so many people are ready to depose the elected president so easily.

Trump has a lot to do with the polarization of politics...

White House Office of Management and Budget Director Mick Mulvaney describing the need for government reform at a Thursday meeting of the President’s cabinet:

If you make a cheese pizza, it’s governed by the Food and Drug Administration. If you put a pepperoni on it, that’s governed by the USDA. If you have a chicken, it’s governed by the USDA. If that chicken lays an egg, it’s governed by the FDA. But if you break the egg and make it into an omelet, that is now covered again by the USDA.

If you have an open-face roast beef sandwich, that’s one or the other. But if you put the bread on top of it, it’s the other one. A hot dog -- the hot dog meat is governed by one. You put it in a bun, it’s governed by the other. One of my favorites: If you have a saltwater fish -- you have a salmon, and it’s in the ocean, it’s governed by the Department of Commerce. Once it swims up river, it’s governed by the Department of the Interior. And to get there, it has to go up a fish ladder governed by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers...

A long time ago, when I was 15 years old, I worked in a freezer for a guy that made frozen pizzas... Put yourself in that guy’s business. And one day he’s making cheese pizzas, and in the afternoon, he’s going to make pepperoni. He’s got an entirely different federal agency to deal with, an entirely different process...

We talked about... the Department of Education and the Department of Labor being merged. We think that makes tremendous sense because what are they both doing? They’re doing the same thing. They’re trying to get people ready for the workforce. Sometimes that’s education, sometimes it’s vocational training. But we’re all doing the same thing, so why not put them in the same place?... We don’t even know how many job training programs we have. Some people think it’s 40, some people think it’s 46, some people think it’s 47.

Interesting

At least he can name the agencies he wants to eliminate.

LOL

What is obvious is you not answering the original question and going on one of your spin cycles. Your new name should be Mr Washing Machine.

Giving your opponents names...now who does that remind me of...

https://twitter.com/NancyPelosi/status/1011264189850161152
Contrast that to
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1011295779422695424

+

[Yammer]

...but I love when the decisions are 6-3 or better. Even when I disagree I realize I must be wrong. 5-4 along party lines gives me no confidence in the decision.

The problem is that the feet aren't equal.

CMIIW, but how often do we see a D appointee voting the other way (like Roberts did with the ACA)? It seems like the D appointees are much more loyal to the cause of their party, whereas some R appointees, while conservative in nature, aren't 100% predictable. Can you show me a mirror image of what Sotomayor did? (I'm not saying it doesn't exist, I'm just unfamiliar and asking).

I would agree with this. While Kennedy and ,(sometimes) Roberts would side with the Ds,  the Liberal judges don't side with the conservatives on political issues.

You have to be joking. Middle class workers owe every gain it has ever made to unions. I am no big union fan but you can't deny their accomplishments for the middle class and even all workers.

That might be historically true. But do they serve a purpose in today's day and age, or are they just a drag on the economy? Especially public unions, that suck everything out of politicians who know they won't be around when it's reckoning time.

+ and for child labor we have labor laws...

Democrats and Republicans should reject any nominee who won't uphold our Constitution and our basic human rights, and who would vote to overturn Roe v. Wade.

Elections have consequences. The last Supreme Court vacancy was brazenly stolen by shameless Republican leaders with no respect for American democracy. We cannot let that happen again. This November, you won't just be deciding the next Congress, you will be deciding the direction America goes in for the next half-century.

If the last year and a half have made you angry, there's something you can do right now: Donate $3 before Saturday's deadline to help elect Democrats up and down the ballot.

Let's go,

Tom

Tom Perez
Chair
Democratic National Committee

$3? They must be D's!

LOL

[Boruch999]

https://scholarship.law.georgetown.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1302&context=facpub

This is authored by the National Legal Director of the ACLU.  There is probably a more right wing take on this but I have not been able to find it.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

So Trump hires Bill Shine who was kicked out by FOX for covering up sexual harassment. Seems like a perfect fit for the WH!!!

[ChaimMoskowitz]

How can anyone have confidence in a moron making decisions for our country who can't accept reality?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1012295859072126977

[aygart]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-met-kass-janus-20180627-story.html

[aygart]

https://twitter.com/sean_spicier/status/1012314576048873475

[aygart]

WOW!
https://www.axios.com/trump-effect-92-percent-republicans-media-fake-news-9c1bbf70-0054-41dd-b506-0869bb10f08c.html

Bad intentions: Among those that think traditional news outlets report false news, most think they do so intentionally.More than two-thirds (65%) say fake news is usually reported because “people have an agenda.”Roughly one-third (30%) believe such information is shared due to laziness or “poor fact-checking.”Hardly anyone (3%) thinks that fake news makes headlines by accident

[ChaimMoskowitz]

https://twitter.com/sean_spicier/status/1012314576048873475

I don't expect you to understand anything about unions.

[aygart]

I don't expect you to understand anything about unions.

That is a satire account. Think of it as The Onion.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

That is a satire account. Think of it as The Onion.

Then why post that carp?

[aygart]

Then why post that carp?

It was still humorous and does make a good point.
You are correct that I don't fully get unions, but I do see their detrimental effect regarding energy efficiency projects all the time. I do realize that there are positive effects which they have which may be very important and i am not realizing. I do understand some of the importance of unions but can't imagine that I understand the full picture.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

It was still humorous and does make a good point.
You are correct that I don't fully get unions, but I do see their detrimental effect regarding energy efficiency projects all the time. I do realize that there are positive effects which they have which may be very important and i am not realizing. I do understand some of the importance of unions but can't imagine that I understand the full picture.

You posted it because you believe what it says just like most of your stuff. Then you try and hide and say you are not a BIG Trump supporter. This is why I use the term "closet Trumpster" for you.


It makes no point at all. It is red meat for the base. I guess you are part of that base?

[aygart]

You posted it because you believe what it says just like most of your stuff. Then you try and hide and say you are not a BIG Trump supporter. This is why I use the term "closet Trumpster" for you.


It makes no point at all. It is red meat for the base. I guess you are part of that base?

Blah blah. I am anti almost anything involving coersion. That seems to be pitting me against liberal policies very often these days.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Blah blah.

You can't dispute the facts so you give this nonsense. Go back at look at your last 10, 50, 100 posts in this thread. See which way they lean and get back to me.

[aygart]

You can't dispute the facts so you give this nonsense. Go back at look at your last 10, 50, 100 posts in this thread. See which way they lean and get back to me.

They most definitely lean conservative.