Author Topic: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread (Read 3830614 times)

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #21740 on:** June 28, 2018, 01:22:40 PM »

Quote from: aygart on June 28, 2018, 01:18:09 PM

Exactly. But the order itself was not a Muslim ban. Had it been one they would not have needed to consider his prior rhetoric.

Wrong. They will only consider what is in the EO!!! Can you link to were they say they would consider rhetoric?
FYI: I did not read the decision and won't. This is the view from both sides on the legal spectrum I have seen.

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #21741 on:** June 28, 2018, 01:24:38 PM »

Quote from: aygart on June 28, 2018, 01:20:31 PM

What if a large portion of Congress doesn't want to secure the border at all?

What if a frog had a tail?
YOU DON'T SEPERATE MOTHERS FROM THEIR CHILDREN!!!

aygart · « **Reply #21742 on:** June 28, 2018, 01:25:36 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on June 28, 2018, 01:24:38 PM

What if a frog had a tail?
YOU DON'T SEPERATE MOTHERS FROM THEIR CHILDREN!!!

I agree. What does that have to do with what I wrote?

aygart · « **Reply #21743 on:** June 28, 2018, 01:27:47 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on June 28, 2018, 01:22:40 PM

Wrong. They will only consider what is in the EO!!! Can you link to were they say they would consider rhetoric?
FYI: I did not read the decision and won't. This is the view from both sides on the legal spectrum I have seen.

It doesn't look like you are understanding what I wrote. I will try to elaborate later or maybe look over again and see that we are not really disagreeing about that only you are taking it too far.

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #21744 on:** June 28, 2018, 01:28:38 PM »

Quote from: aygart on June 28, 2018, 01:25:36 PM

I agree. What does that have to do with what I wrote?

What you wrote is to deflect like usual. You want to have a border secure discussion have at it. It just won't be with me.

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #21745 on:** June 28, 2018, 01:30:54 PM »

Quote from: aygart on June 28, 2018, 01:27:47 PM

It doesn't look like you are understanding what I wrote. I will try to elaborate later or maybe look over again and see that we are not really disagreeing about that only you are taking it too far.

We are not actually disagreeing. You are IMHO adding to the decision.

aygart · « **Reply #21746 on:** June 28, 2018, 01:33:16 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on June 28, 2018, 01:28:38 PM

What you wrote is to deflect like usual. You want to have a border secure discussion have at it. It just won't be with me.

Out was a reply to what you wrote about Congress and nothing more.

Boruch999 · « **Reply #21747 on:** June 28, 2018, 01:34:20 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on June 28, 2018, 01:13:10 PM

You don't separate mothers from their children for a misdemeanor. If congress can't find a way to secure the border without separating mothers from their children then need to get a new job.

The preferred method of both this and the prior Administration was to detain them together. Radical left activists, in an attempt to thwart enforcement of border security, ended that practice with the help of an activist leftist court. So the options remaining are to separate children or resume catch and release. So just to be clear, are you advocating for catch and release?

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #21748 on:** June 28, 2018, 01:35:53 PM »

Quote from: aygart on June 28, 2018, 01:19:22 PM

Not in this country where the constitution guarantees individual rights. Maybe in the Democratic socialist Republic of.....

WHAT? Do I have to follow Trumps EO's, I didn't vote for him?

Boruch999 · « **Reply #21749 on:** June 28, 2018, 01:50:10 PM »

Quote from: Boruch999 on June 27, 2018, 03:47:38 PM

Every Trump vote paying double dividends.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/06/28/marc-thiessen-congrats-trump-voters-youve-just-been-vindicated.html

aygart · « **Reply #21750 on:** June 28, 2018, 02:26:33 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on June 28, 2018, 01:35:53 PM

WHAT? Do I have to follow Trumps EO's, I didn't vote for him?

Do they infringe on your protected rights?

elit · « **Reply #21751 on:** June 28, 2018, 02:45:25 PM »

Quote from: aygart on June 28, 2018, 11:01:27 AM

https://twitter.com/sean_spicier/status/1012314576048873475

Quote from: elit on June 27, 2018, 06:47:24 PM

except if it's true they really need it so badly then they are more then welcome to.join and pay dues

.

Yammer · « **Reply #21752 on:** June 28, 2018, 02:47:45 PM »

Quote from: aygart on June 28, 2018, 12:58:34 PM

Part of the controversy would be solved if the unions kept out of politics.

While true it's impossible, as part of the reason Unions exist is to fight for legislation changes that benefit the members.

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #21753 on:** June 28, 2018, 02:48:10 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on June 27, 2018, 10:13:21 PM

Can the Trumpsters explain this one to me? I am sure this is a positive development, no?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/north-korea-continues-construction-of-nuclear-research-facility-despite-agreement-to-denuclearize-report/ar-AAzfIrX?ocid=spartanntp

Bump!!!

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #21754 on:** June 28, 2018, 02:48:54 PM »

Quote from: Yammer on June 28, 2018, 02:47:45 PM

...as part of the reason Unions exist is to fight for legislation changes that benefit the members.

Sad this needs to be posted.

aygart · « **Reply #21755 on:** June 28, 2018, 02:50:12 PM »

Quote from: Yammer on June 28, 2018, 02:47:45 PM

While true it's impossible, as part of the reason Unions exist is to fight for legislation changes that benefit the members.

Which means that to coerce payment is to coerce political speech.

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #21756 on:** June 28, 2018, 02:53:04 PM »

Quote from: aygart on June 28, 2018, 02:50:12 PM

Which means that to coerce payment is to coerce political speech.

If you don't like the rules that were democratically voted for then leave. In this case find a job were you are not freeloading off due paying members.

Yammer · « **Reply #21757 on:** June 28, 2018, 02:53:21 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on June 28, 2018, 02:48:10 PM

Bump!!!

It's to cause the Ds to slam Trump and make the Rs lose the midterms, which would then try to impeach Trump, which would then borrow nukes from NK and have them wipe out the Ds!

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #21758 on:** June 28, 2018, 02:55:35 PM »

Quote from: Yammer on June 28, 2018, 02:53:21 PM

It's to cause the Ds to slam Trump and make the Rs lose the midterms, which would then try to impeach Trump, which would then borrow nukes from NK and have them wipe out the Ds!

Translation: So the historic meeting was a nothingburger and Trump got played.

Yammer · « **Reply #21759 on:** June 28, 2018, 02:56:30 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on June 28, 2018, 02:48:54 PM

Sad this needs to be posted.

Quote from: aygart on June 28, 2018, 02:50:12 PM

Which means that to coerce payment is to coerce political speech.

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on June 28, 2018, 02:53:04 PM

If you don't like the rules that were democratically voted for then leave. In this case find a job were you are not freeloading off due paying members.

The question is now that workforce regulations cover the standard of Union workers, do you believe that Unions should exist in such a powerful format @ChaimMoskowitz

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