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Trump walks in a room.

1. Moshe123 shoots at him because he is pure evil, 2. ilherman+hachover jump in front of the bullets because Trump is our savior. 3. aygart tackles Moshe123 because Trump is better than HRC, 4. but Baruch can't stand Trump so he tells aygart he's crazy and Trump is a madman. 5. ExGingi would like to point out that who cares what he is, all that matters is the supreme court nominations. 6. Dan and others aren't really sure how this makes them feel plus they don't really want to drink poison. 7. Spoiler alert: Moshe123's gun was empty, it was just a blank.

And Freddie is in the back of the room just cooking his cholent. Until he announces that there are TWO menu choices, Pareve Cholent or Vegetable Lasagna. While etech0 figured out that they are both poisoned.


Repeat x100.

And then Hilary walks into the room with the most confidence a candidate has had in recent history. She is so confident that she eats both the Pareve Cholent and Vegetable Lasagna. Everyone is the room is aghast, they don't know how this happened, could it be Comey is behind this poisoning or was it that her Obamacare premiums were to high to get her the help she needed.

Everyone stared as she choked and was cast into oblivion on November, 8, 2016 the last day she was heard from in the public eye.

Moshe123, ilherman, hachover, Baruch, ExGingi, Dan, Freddie, etech0, and the rest of America are in total shock and hope that so long as Trump doesn't eat any Pareve Cholent and Vegetable Lasagna and stays true to his supreme court nominees this may be the greatest thing to happen since the CSR and GC's.

But remember this may be the beginning of the end...

P.S. Thanks to cognitive dissonance aygart, Michael Moore, and Scott Adams knew the whole time that Trump could win, unfortunately for JTZ he may be off DDF for the next 4 years due to his mandatory 3 times daily consumption of CROW!

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Sub notes:

Nov 8 : Time to edit the wiki. Biggest upset in American History according to Michael Isikoff.


http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=57647.0

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5952.html
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump?lang=en
http://blog.dilbert.com/
http://fivethirtyeight.com/
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As things turns out, the most prescient view on this election was that of Michael Moore! Though Scott Adams is also claiming a high view level of prescience.


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Author Topic: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread  (Read 3769782 times)

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #22060 on: July 10, 2018, 08:53:09 AM »
Again how can you say this with certainty?
You made a lot of comments on a lot of posts, so I am going to answer this question, because this is the basis for the argument that we should not ban/boycott sweatshops. I don't know which options are better or worse for these people, but I do know that if they chose to work in a sweatshop over the alternative, they obviously believe that the sweatshop is their better option, and I don't want to condemn them to the alternative, whatever it may be, because they clearly think the alternative is worse.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #22061 on: July 10, 2018, 09:01:34 AM »
What kind of individual tries to justify sweatshops? Probably the same individuals that tries to justify taking kids away from their mothers.

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #22062 on: July 10, 2018, 09:12:43 AM »
What kind of individual tries to justify sweatshops? Probably the same individuals that tries to justify taking kids away from their mothers.

Justify: defend, explain, clear away, or make excuses for by reasoning
We already know you can't have an honest discussion, because you feel that anyone who disagrees with you, disagrees because they are horrible people. I don't think you want to get rid of sweatshops because you're nasty and would rather kids work as prostitutes than work in factories, you just don't realize that that would be the effect of your policies. You on the other hand automatically assume that the reason why I wouldn't ban sweatshops is either because I love the exploitation of people, or because I don't care.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #22063 on: July 10, 2018, 09:22:00 AM »
We already know you can't have an honest discussion, because you feel that anyone who disagrees with you, disagrees because they are horrible people. I don't think you want to get rid of sweatshops because you're nasty and would rather kids work as prostitutes than work in factories, you just don't realize that that would be the effect of your policies. You on the other hand automatically assume that the reason why I wouldn't ban sweatshops is either because I love the exploitation of people, or because I don't care.
I am not assuming anything. I asked a legitimate question. If you don't see the issue with trying to justify sweatshops in any form then you need to take a hard long look at why that is. Many terrible things in this world can be tried to justify away by saying the alternative is worse.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #22064 on: July 10, 2018, 09:34:37 AM »
I am not assuming anything. I asked a legitimate question. If you don't see the issue with trying to justify sweatshops in any form then you need to take a hard long look at why that is. Many terrible things in this world can be tried to justify away by saying the alternative is worse.
And in every single one of them (assuming there is no 3rd party being negatively affected by it), I would say allow the affected individuals to choose, instead of taking away their options. I would never want to force someone to have to "choose" the worse option.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #22065 on: July 10, 2018, 09:40:14 AM »
And in every single one of them (assuming there is no 3rd party being negatively affected by it), I would say allow the affected individuals to choose, instead of taking away their options. I would never want to force someone to have to "choose" the worse option.
All you are trying to do is reason in your own mind why sweatshops should be around. Again I have to ask what type of person thinks this way?

Like I said before I can make an argument for hundreds of terrible things by saying the alternative is worse.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #22066 on: July 10, 2018, 09:55:25 AM »
All you are trying to do is reason in your own mind why sweatshops should be around. Again I have to ask what type of person thinks this way?

Like I said before I can make an argument for hundreds of terrible things by saying the alternative is worse.
Again you're assuming that the reason why I wouldn't ban them is because I don't care about the people working in them, quite the contrary, I don't think we should ban sweatshops because  I care about the people working in them.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #22067 on: July 10, 2018, 10:01:21 AM »
Again you're assuming that the reason why I wouldn't ban them is because I don't care about the people working in them, quite the contrary, I don't think we should ban sweatshops because  I care about the people working in them.
You just don't get it.
Justify: defend, explain, clear away, or make excuses for by reasoning

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #22068 on: July 10, 2018, 10:15:09 AM »
You just don't get it.
Please explain who is being hurt by it.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #22069 on: July 10, 2018, 10:18:29 AM »
Please explain who is being hurt by it.
Red herring: A red herring is something that misleads or distracts from a relevant or important issue. It may be either a logical fallacy or a literary device that leads readers or audiences towards a false conclusion. A red herring might be intentionally used, such as in mystery fiction or as part of a rhetorical strategies (e.g. in politics), or it could be inadvertently used during argumentation.

Sweatshops are a terrible thing and should not be allowed. What part don't you understand?
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #22070 on: July 10, 2018, 10:22:24 AM »
Red herring: A red herring is something that misleads or distracts from a relevant or important issue. It may be either a logical fallacy or a literary device that leads readers or audiences towards a false conclusion. A red herring might be intentionally used, such as in mystery fiction or as part of a rhetorical strategies (e.g. in politics), or it could be inadvertently used during argumentation.

Sweatshops are a terrible thing and should not be allowed. What part don't you understand?
That was not a logical fallacy.
Why are sweatshops terrible?
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #22071 on: July 10, 2018, 10:30:08 AM »
Why are sweatshops terrible?
You are joking? I guess you thing child labor isn't terrible?
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #22072 on: July 10, 2018, 10:34:18 AM »
You made a lot of comments on a lot of posts, so I am going to answer this question, because this is the basis for the argument that we should not ban/boycott sweatshops. I don't know which options are better or worse for these people, but I do know that if they chose to work in a sweatshop over the alternative, they obviously believe that the sweatshop is their better option, and I don't want to condemn them to the alternative, whatever it may be, because they clearly think the alternative is worse.
Are you crazy! If sweatshops were banned then there would be more non-sweatshop opportunity!
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #22073 on: July 10, 2018, 10:36:15 AM »
You are joking? I guess you thing child labor isn't terrible?
I guess you think child prostitution is better than child labor.
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« Reply #22074 on: July 10, 2018, 10:39:10 AM »
Are you crazy! If sweatshops were banned then there would be more non-sweatshop opportunity!
Let me see if I follow. Company "A" needs to make 1k widgets. He currently makes them in a sweatshop. If sweatshops were banned you are saying he would now have to make the 1k widgets in a non-sweatshop environment? :)
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #22075 on: July 10, 2018, 10:39:36 AM »
Are you crazy! If sweatshops were banned then there would be more non-sweatshop opportunity!
Possibly some.
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« Reply #22076 on: July 10, 2018, 10:40:07 AM »
Let me see if I follow. Company "A" needs to make 1k widgets. He currently makes them in a sweatshop. If sweatshops were banned you are saying he would now have to make the 1k widgets in a non-sweatshop environment? :)
Like an automated factory?
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #22077 on: July 10, 2018, 10:40:19 AM »
I guess you think child prostitution is better than child labor.
No, that are both 100% unacceptable. What part don't you understand?
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #22078 on: July 10, 2018, 10:42:27 AM »
No, that are both 100% unacceptable. What part don't you understand?
By taking away the option to work in a sweatshop, you are condemning them to work as prostitutes, I would rather allow them to work in sweatshops, and you would rather force them into prostitution.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #22079 on: July 10, 2018, 10:45:06 AM »
By taking away the option to work in a sweatshop, you are condemning them to work as prostitutes, I would rather allow them to work in sweatshops, and you would rather force them into prostitution.
You are so messed up it is ridicules. You really need help!!!
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