US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread

[aygart]

What people will do to convince themselves that they are unbiased.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

What people will do to convince themselves that they are unbiased.

Everyone can see right through your BS and dishonesty. You will see the same post over and over until you answer.

Only because you decided that any discussion of the parts that you don't want discuss means that feel what fits your biases to have them saying. Your biases are preventing you from even knowing what people are really saying. That is how biased you are.

I know what they are saying. They are blaming the D's for this whole mess. They are saying K is afraid of a fair investigation because it will derail/kill his nomination. Am I missing anything?

You are missing more than you are getting. You need to own up to your biases so you can see past them.

What am I missing?

You will not get it until you own up to your biases. Everything he's been very explicit but your biases are pending you from seeing it.

What am I missing?

[aygart]

Who was talking to you?

Everyone can see right through your BS and dishonesty. You will see the same post over and over until you answer.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Who was talking to you?

Everyone can see right through your BS and dishonesty. You will see the same post over and over until you answer.

Only because you decided that any discussion of the parts that you don't want discuss means that feel what fits your biases to have them saying. Your biases are preventing you from even knowing what people are really saying. That is how biased you are.

I know what they are saying. They are blaming the D's for this whole mess. They are saying K is afraid of a fair investigation because it will derail/kill his nomination. Am I missing anything?

You are missing more than you are getting. You need to own up to your biases so you can see past them.

What am I missing?

You will not get it until you own up to your biases. Everything he's been very explicit but your biases are pending you from seeing it.

What am I missing?

[aygart]

So childish. Amazing

[avromie7]

So I believe him and that shows I have bias? Care to explain?

There you go again twisting everything into a disfigured pretzel. The fact that you keep screaming for a full blown investigation into this even though there has yet to be a shred of credible evidence all the while saying that its unbiased shows your bias. You're like town who police for profit but claim it's for safety.

Why is there a need for an FBI investigation?  If the senate judiciary committee found any credibility in her story it can move on from there, but the country shouldn't come to a halt because of an unsubstantiated vague accusation without any evidence.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

There you go again twisting everything into a disfigured pretzel. The fact that you keep screaming for a full blown investigation into this even though there has yet to be a shred of credible evidence all the while saying that its unbiased shows your bias. You're like town who police for profit but claim it's for safety.

Why is there a need for an FBI investigation?  If the senate judiciary committee found any credibility in her story it can move on from there, but the country shouldn't come to a halt because of an unsubstantiated vague accusation without any evidence.

I didn't twist anything. I asked how does believing him show bias. You then go off on a tangent instead of addressing the question.
You want the senate who is 100% political to investigate and you call me biased. 
I never mentioned a FULL BLOWN INVESTIGATION. Please back up your claim with a link. If not it will just show your spin.
I have said over and over an investigation like Hill's would be proper. IIRC that took a whole three days. 
Do you believe K's denial is credible?

[avromie7]

I didn't twist anything. I asked how does believing him show bias.

No one ever said that believing him shows bias.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

No one ever said that believing him shows bias.

If I am showing bias in this discussion that I said I would check my politics at the door why would I believe him?

You skipped these two questions.

I never mentioned a FULL BLOWN INVESTIGATION. Please back up your claim with a link. If not it will just show your spin.
Do you believe K's denial is credible?

[ChaimMoskowitz]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/22/tentative-agreement-reached-for-kavanaugh-ford-hearing-on-thursday-source-says.html

[avromie7]

You want the senate who is 100% political to investigate and you call me biased. 

I am not saying they should necessarily be the ones to do the entire investigation, but unless they (including Diane Feinstein and other Ds on the committee) can find any credibility in the story, there is no need for an investigation. Should we have an FBI investigation in to everything he ever said?

This is all besides the fact that this is not the FBIs job, and they've never done anything like this where no one can be charged with a crime.

Do you believe K's denial is credible?

Until there is some credible evidence to her story, I definitely believe kavanaugh.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

  Until there is some credible evidence to her story, I definitely believe kavanaugh.

Ok you believe him and don't believe her. I believe both at this point and want a fair investigation to sort it out. I guess that makes me biased. 

I know you are avoiding this because you can't back it up. Please show where I called for a FULL BLOWN INVESTIGATION or just admit I never did. This was just your spin.

[aygart]

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https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/22/politics/kavanaugh-ford-accuser-nomination/index.html

On Saturday night, her lawyer, Howard Walsh, released a statement to CNN and the Senate Judiciary Committee.
"Simply put," Walsh said, "Ms. Keyser does not know Mr. Kavanaugh and she has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present, with, or without, Dr. Ford."

[avromie7]

Ok you believe him and don't believe her. I believe both at this point and want a fair investigation to sort it out. I guess that makes me biased. 

I know you are avoiding this because you can't back it up. Please shown where I called for a FULL BLOWN INVESTIGATION or just admit I never did. This was just your spin.

The fact that you believe an accusation without evidence talks volumes. Until there is evidence, they are not on 2 equal possible stories, there is an accusation without evidence that is not to be believed until there is some evidence that the accusation may have some truth to it.

Ok you didn't say full blown.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Ok you didn't say full blown.

Thank you. The next time you accuse me of twisting things you might want to do some self refection first.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

The fact that you believe an accusation without evidence talks volumes. Until there is evidence, they are not on 2 equal possible stories, there is an accusation without evidence that is not to be believed until there is some evidence that the accusation may have some truth to it.

You call the doctor and her husband as not evidence. We can go another 100 pages in circles. That is why we need a fair investigation. If I was K I would demand one to clear my name. At this point all of you should want one also. Lets clear his name. The truth will set you free. Embrace it don't be afraid of it.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

This is why you need an investigation. To sort out statements like this: Though Keyser says she has "no recollection" of being at a party that Kavanaugh attended, she told The Post that she believes Ford's allegation.

[Yammer]

You call the doctor and her husband as not evidence. We can go another 100 pages in circles. That is why we need a fair investigation. If I was K I would demand one to clear my name. At this point all of you should want one also. Lets clear his name. The truth will set you free. Embrace it don't be afraid of it.

Even if it means he never becomes SCOTUS? I'm not so sure I would. I want an investigation once I'm confirmed

[springles]

Ok you believe him and don't believe her. I believe both at this point and want a fair investigation to sort it out. I guess that makes me biased. 

I know you are avoiding this because you can't back it up. Please show where I called for a FULL BLOWN INVESTIGATION or just admit I never did. This was just your spin.

you can't believe both, they are saying 2 opposite things. If you are trying to say that you don't know who to believe then i agree with that. I don't know either of them personally and so have nothing to base my belief on. I am all for any investigation that would uncover the truth as long as it isn't a drawn out thing that pushes the vote to a time when it doesn't matter the outcome of the investigation. Im just not sure if that is possible.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Even if it means he never becomes SCOTUS? I'm not so sure I would. I want an investigation once I'm confirmed

I would demand one now. This will never end until there is a fair investigation. The D's will use this forever.