US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread

[ChaimMoskowitz]

https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/276694/is-the-womens-march-melting-down

Can we get the cliff notes?

[zh cohen]

Can we get the cliff notes?

The woman's March was co-opted from the very beginning (first planning meeting) by anti-Semites. At that meeting one of the co-chairs claimed that "Jewish people bore a special collective responsibility as exploiters of black and brown people—and even, according to a close secondhand source, claimed that Jews were proven to have been leaders of the American slave trade. "

(And that's before getting into the financial shenanigans going on there)

[BZ12]

How is that "winning" going. 
This guy has been getting killed on all fronts. They way he was bullied to take responsibility for the shutdown was sad. Even hating the guy I felt sorry for him.

https://twitter.com/w_terrence/status/1072598862664253440

[BZ12]

Penny for Pence's thoughts. 

https://twitter.com/JFNYC1/status/1072599129774264320

[ChaimMoskowitz]

All you had to do was watch the exchange as see how Trump got suckered/bullied into saying the shutdown will be his fault. When you play with the big boys don't p*ss into the wind or you get it all over yourself. 

[ilherman]

@ChaimMoskowitz

Ever heard about the expression קרח מכאן וקרח מכאן?

It equals Michael Cohen.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

 @ilherman
Do you know what DACOTYA stands for? 

[BZ12]

@ilherman
Do you know what DACOTYA stands for? 

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=53089.15

TRUMP - both categories multiple times.

[BZ12]

Clever Woman: U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley: President Donald Trump’s stormy rhetoric and “unpredictable” nature key to get things done.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Fox News’ Judge Napolitano: We Now Know Trump ‘Committed a Felony’
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fox-news’-judge-napolitano-we-now-know-trump-‘committed-a-felony’/ar-BBQS7sv?ocid=spartanntp

[BZ12]

USA TODAY: Given the presidency's evolution, Donald Trump, the overlord of American politics, is not a fluke, or some historic anomaly. He’s an inevitability.
AMERICA NEEDS TO 'BREAK ITS ADDICTION' TO THE PRESIDENCY...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/12/13/donald-trump-executive-power-president-war-democracy-constitution-cult-column/2065368002/

[BZ12]

All you had to do was watch the exchange as see how Trump got suckered/bullied into saying the shutdown will be his fault. When you play with the big boys don't p*ss into the wind or you get it all over yourself. 

This is Trump's Quote: “I am proud to shut down the government for border security, Chuck,”. “Because the people of this country don’t want criminals and people that have lots of problems and drugs pouring into this country. So I will take the mantle, I will be the one to shut it down. I won’t blame you for it.

The Daily Beast: Everybody’s Wrong: Donald Trump Won the Chuck-n-Nancy Meeting, and Here’s Why All that in-front-of-the-cameras civility is fake anyway. Trump dispensed with it. It was refreshing, and his people will love it, shutdown or no shutdown.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/everybodys-wrong-donald-trump-won-the-chuck-n-nancy-meeting-and-heres-why?ref=scroll

[ChaimMoskowitz]

This is Trump's Quote: “I am proud to shut down the government for border security, Chuck,”. “Because the people of this country don’t want criminals and people that have lots of problems and drugs pouring into this country. So I will take the mantle, I will be the one to shut it down. I won’t blame you for it.

The Daily Beast: Everybody’s Wrong: Donald Trump Won the Chuck-n-Nancy Meeting, and Here’s Why All that in-front-of-the-cameras civility is fake anyway. Trump dispensed with it. It was refreshing, and his people will love it, shutdown or no shutdown.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/everybodys-wrong-donald-trump-won-the-chuck-n-nancy-meeting-and-heres-why?ref=scroll

If you call getting suckered into saying something as winning then nothing need more to be said.

[BZ12]

If you call getting suckered into saying something as winning then nothing need more to be said.

Read The ............. Article!! (if you're capable of  )

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Read The ............. Article!!

I can't read no more articles. 

[BZ12]

I can't read no more articles. 

I Figured

[ChaimMoskowitz]

I Figured

In fairness I went back and read it. You think reality TV is transparency? 

[BZ12]

In fairness I went back and read it. You think reality TV is transparency?

Missing the point. This is what Trump needs badly.

"If you are a supporter of the president’s policies, this was an especially welcome display—a rare example of a president publicly fighting for his policy goal: a border wall. The public fight is important. There is no doubt that Trump supporters are passionate about the border wall. The proof that Trump is rhetorically fighting for it is vital—especially if he never actually delivers it. 

But maybe he will. For those conservatives who championed Trump based on his status as a fighter, he doesn’t get points just for standing up for the wall. However, he does get extra points for not cowering in the face of a government shutdown"

"Trump might benefit from Democrats winning the House. This would provide him with a foil, and/or allow him to blame others for failing to deliver on his policy goals.

Based on Tuesday’s meeting, things seem to be running according to schedule."

[aygart]

If you call getting suckered into saying something as winning then nothing need more to be said.

Well, he has been saying this very clearly numerous times as Schumer mentioned.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Missing the point. This is what Trump needs badly.

Red meat for the base is not going to win an election. It is the ones in the middle he needs. Acting tough and saying he wants a shutdown is not going to win him any votes.