Author Topic: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread (Read 3823660 times)

mushkovits · « **Reply #27700 on:** July 28, 2019, 09:14:08 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on July 28, 2019, 09:02:16 AM

He has plenty of chances to make examples out of white supremacist and refuses to. Sometimes even calls them good people. Like calling those with the racist chant "send her back" patriots. He wants and is catering to the racist base.

So you don’t support labeling antifa a terrorist organization?

CountValentine · « **Reply #27701 on:** July 28, 2019, 09:27:44 AM »

Quote from: mushkovits on July 28, 2019, 09:14:08 AM

So you don’t support labeling antifa a terrorist organization?

Where did I say that? What I support is calling all terrorist groups out. I am wondering why Trump is not doing that. The only reason I come up with is he is a racist and/or wants the racist vote. Now you can either address this or try to deflect.

mushkovits · « **Reply #27702 on:** July 28, 2019, 09:36:21 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on July 28, 2019, 09:27:44 AM

Where did I say that? What I support is calling all terrorist groups out. I am wondering why Trump is not doing that. The only reason I come up with is he is a racist and/or wants the racist vote. Now you can either address this or try to deflect.

I was asking.
Why not give him credit for it and then continue on with your questions and mockery.
You don’t like making any comparisons but for arguments sake did you glorify BO for the nuclear deal or were you busy asking why he didn’t also cut deals with North Korea, etc

CountValentine · « **Reply #27703 on:** July 28, 2019, 09:42:19 AM »

Quote from: mushkovits on July 28, 2019, 09:36:21 AM

I was asking.
Why not give him credit for it and then continue on with your questions and mockery.
You don’t like making any comparisons but for arguments sake did you glorify BO for the nuclear deal or were you busy asking why he didn’t also cut deals with North Korea, etc

Glorify BO nuke deal? Where did I do that? I said it was better than no deal like the majority of AMERICANS believe.
Now back to the real issue. Why don't you call this president out for his racist actions? Are you just going to stand by an be an enabler? History has shown that is a very bad stance to take.

mushkovits · « **Reply #27704 on:** July 28, 2019, 09:44:16 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on July 28, 2019, 09:42:19 AM

Glorify BO nuke deal? Where did I do that? I said it was better than no deal like the majority of AMERICANS believe.
Now back to the real issue. Why don't you call this president out for his racist actions? Are you just going to stand by an be an enabler? History has shown that is a very bad stance to take.

Cuz labeling antifa is better then labeling zero organizations

CountValentine · « **Reply #27705 on:** July 28, 2019, 09:45:46 AM »

Quote from: mushkovits on July 28, 2019, 09:44:16 AM

Cuz labeling antifa is better then labeling zero organizations

Not true if the goal is to enable the racist to get there votes.

mushkovits · « **Reply #27706 on:** July 28, 2019, 09:48:26 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on July 28, 2019, 09:45:46 AM

Not true if the goal is to enable the racist to get there votes.

I’m not following. How do you distinguish this from the nuclear deal. I know people saying BO only did it to swipe Israel and get the liberal votes.

AussieMan · « **Reply #27707 on:** July 28, 2019, 09:55:49 AM »

Quote from: mushkovits on July 28, 2019, 09:48:26 AM

I’m not following. How do you distinguish this from the nuclear deal. I know people saying BO only did it to swipe Israel and get the liberal votes.

Everyone does things for votes
It's bad if you do it for racists votes bec racists are bad.
It's good if you do it for liberal votes bec..

aygart · « **Reply #27708 on:** July 28, 2019, 11:03:54 AM »

Quote from: AussieMan on July 28, 2019, 09:55:49 AM

Everyone does things for votes
It's bad if you do it for racists votes bec racists are bad.
It's good if you do it for anti-semite votes bec..

FTFY

CountValentine · « **Reply #27709 on:** July 28, 2019, 11:19:10 AM »

Quote from: mushkovits on July 28, 2019, 09:48:26 AM

I’m not following. How do you distinguish this from the nuclear deal. I know people saying BO only did it to swipe Israel and get the liberal votes.

BO is not president. You keep trying to deflect instead of calling this president out for his racist comments. Don't you understand by being an enabler you are the problem?

Yammer · « **Reply #27710 on:** July 28, 2019, 11:21:05 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on July 24, 2019, 12:32:34 AM

Why was Trump MIA on the 9/11 victim fund? Why wasn't he twitting his support every day for it?

And he's a NYer..

Quote from: CountValentine on July 24, 2019, 08:56:02 AM

Trump is going to go ballistic after Mullers testimony.

No comment needed

Quote from: CountValentine on July 25, 2019, 08:38:21 AM

Read the report. That shows it is unbiased. There are parts both sides don't like. The D's wont accept the Trump campaign did not collude with the Russians. The R's wont accept there were ten situations laid out that could be obstruction.

"Could"

Quote from: CountValentine on July 25, 2019, 07:53:43 PM

Not sure what you are talking about. You are either exonerated or you are not. You can't be a little bit pregnant.

Are the Kool-Aid drinkers acting stupid or are they stupid. There are ten situations laid out where obstruction is possible. Under the guidelines he can't charge a sitting president with obstruction. He added the footnote that an option is impeachment. How can you possibly say with a straight face that he was exonerated? The exact opposite is true and the report stated that.

On a serious note, why isn't this true?

https://youtu.be/OfFtq8C_1_4

Quote from: CountValentine on July 28, 2019, 09:27:44 AM

Where did I say that? What I support is calling all terrorist groups out. I am wondering why Trump is not doing that.

+

CountValentine · « **Reply #27711 on:** July 28, 2019, 11:22:50 AM »

Quote from: Yammer on July 28, 2019, 11:21:05 AM

Not sure if I have been quoted more than that in one post.

CountValentine · « **Reply #27712 on:** July 28, 2019, 11:29:22 AM »

Quote from: Yammer on July 28, 2019, 11:21:05 AM

https://youtu.be/OfFtq8C_1_4

Don't want to watch a 5 minute speech so what is the question?

zh cohen · « **Reply #27713 on:** July 28, 2019, 12:25:52 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on July 28, 2019, 08:51:15 AM

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-antifa-could-be-deemed-a-terrorist-organization/ar-AAEX6UF?ocid=spartandhp

Why would a president go after them and refuse to go after the white supremacist? One reason I can think of is because he is a racist. Another reason is he wants the racist vote. Any other reasons?

Maybe all of the white supremacists organizations that advocate violence are already on the list?

CountValentine · « **Reply #27714 on:** July 28, 2019, 01:17:53 PM »

Quote from: zh cohen on July 28, 2019, 12:25:52 PM

Maybe all of the white supremacists organizations that advocate violence are already on the list?

Possible but highly unlikely.

mushkovits · « **Reply #27715 on:** July 28, 2019, 01:35:02 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on July 28, 2019, 11:19:10 AM

BO is not president. You keep trying to deflect instead of calling this president out for his racist comments. Don't you understand by being an enabler you are the problem?

Drinking the nevertrump kool-aid?!
If it’s anyone deflecting it is you. Answer my simple questions

CountValentine · « **Reply #27716 on:** July 28, 2019, 01:37:34 PM »

Quote from: mushkovits on July 28, 2019, 01:35:02 PM

Drinking the nevertrump kool-aid?!
If it’s anyone deflecting it is you. Answer my simple questions

You have yet to address the question I originally asked. That is called deflecting.

yitzgar · « **Reply #27717 on:** July 28, 2019, 01:48:30 PM »

So if noone can come up with a white supremacist group comparable to antifa, I will consider this a straw man argument.

CountValentine · « **Reply #27718 on:** July 28, 2019, 01:53:57 PM »

Quote from: yitzgar on July 28, 2019, 01:48:30 PM

So if noone can come up with a white supremacist group comparable to antifa, I will consider this a straw man argument.

Lets see if we have this straight. White supremacist are racist and anti-Semites. Antifa is against these groups. Do I have that right?

yitzgar · « **Reply #27719 on:** July 28, 2019, 01:57:59 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on July 28, 2019, 01:53:57 PM

Lets see if we have this straight. White supremacist are racist and anti-Semites. Antifa is against these groups. Do I have that right?

So the enemy of my enemy is my friend? Are you trying to argue that they are good terrorists? This has nothing to do with the original point anyway. You complained that there is a double standard. I am asking you for proof that the double standard exists. Trying to show that antifa is good (besides being ridiculous), is a deflection.

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