Author Topic: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread (Read 3827401 times)

chinagel · « **Reply #29160 on:** December 23, 2019, 10:43:18 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on December 23, 2019, 10:38:53 AM

Again you are making things up or believing what the Kool-Aid drinkers are saying here.
What the D's are doing on impeachment (current discussion we are having) is sneaky, underhanded and wrong. Then should sent the articles to the senate. I have said that throughout this discussion. Now explain how that is parroting their talking points.

Rare exception to the rule.

CountValentine · « **Reply #29161 on:** December 23, 2019, 10:44:45 AM »

Quote from: chinagel on December 23, 2019, 10:43:18 AM

Rare exception to the rule.

Quote from: CountValentine on December 23, 2019, 10:41:39 AM

Since you claim I defend them at every turn.
Do I defend them on abortion?
How about same sex marriage?
SCOTUS picks?
Do I need to keep going or you want to change what you fixed?

chinagel · « **Reply #29162 on:** December 23, 2019, 10:47:37 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on December 23, 2019, 10:41:39 AM

Since you claim I defend them at every turn.
Do I defend them on abortion?
How about same sex marriage?
SCOTUS picks?
Do I need to keep going or you want to change what you fixed?

All I see is what you write, I don't know you personally. And 99% of your posts are lockstep with Liberals.
I'm sure @aygart can also tell you all the things he disagrees with Trump about, yet you still accused him of being a Trumpster based on his posts that you considered defending him. And I was pointing out is that the same can be said of your posts. Now that you see that, you can realize that just because a position jives with another, doesn't mean all of one's other positions are the same.

CountValentine · « **Reply #29163 on:** December 23, 2019, 10:57:08 AM »

Quote from: chinagel on December 23, 2019, 10:47:37 AM

All I see is what you write,

This is the problem. You see what I write about Trump and ignore all the rest.
You equate anti-Trump with being a liberal. You are making the same mistake most here do.

aygart · « **Reply #29164 on:** December 23, 2019, 10:59:01 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on December 23, 2019, 10:57:08 AM

This is the problem. You see what I write about Trump and ignore all the rest.
You equate anti-Trump with being a liberal. You are making the same mistake most here do.

And what you write about taxes and healthcare.....

chinagel · « **Reply #29165 on:** December 23, 2019, 11:00:32 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on December 23, 2019, 10:57:08 AM

This is the problem. You see what I write about Trump and ignore all the rest.
You equate anti-Trump with being a liberal. You are making the same mistake most here do.

Did you read the rest of what I wrote?

CountValentine · « **Reply #29166 on:** December 23, 2019, 11:01:27 AM »

Quote from: chinagel on December 23, 2019, 10:47:37 AM

I'm sure @aygart can also tell you all the things he disagrees with Trump about,

Why do you feel the need to defend @aygart? I see this over and over again in almost all my discussions. It does not matter what side I take.
I would ask why that is but no need to ask a question we all know the answer to.

aygart · « **Reply #29167 on:** December 23, 2019, 11:02:51 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on December 23, 2019, 10:42:39 AM

I said religions need to speak up and be leaders.

Religions do not speak.

CountValentine · « **Reply #29168 on:** December 23, 2019, 11:03:47 AM »

Quote from: aygart on December 23, 2019, 10:59:01 AM

And what you write about taxes and healthcare.....

About the tax cut was for the rich and big corporations? Stating the facts makes you a liberal now? Amazon made billions, paid no federal taxes last year and received a tax cut. You think that is fair?

CountValentine · « **Reply #29169 on:** December 23, 2019, 11:04:09 AM »

Quote from: aygart on December 23, 2019, 11:02:51 AM

Religions do not speak.

Mine does.

aygart · « **Reply #29170 on:** December 23, 2019, 11:05:21 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on December 23, 2019, 11:03:47 AM

About the tax cut was for the rich and big corporations? Stating the facts makes you a liberal now? Amazon made billions, paid no federal taxes last year and received a tax cut. You think that is fair?

It is not only what you wrote about Amazon. Yes frequently taking a liberal position can make someone a liberal. (FTR, I try not to throw around labels and what I am writing should not be construed to mean that my opinion is that you are a liberal)

Is it fair? That depends.
So lets take a step back. How many years had they operated at a loss due to their investing in growth?

CountValentine · « **Reply #29171 on:** December 23, 2019, 11:05:55 AM »

Quote from: chinagel on December 23, 2019, 11:00:32 AM

Did you read the rest of what I wrote?

Yes and I addressed that separately.

CountValentine · « **Reply #29172 on:** December 23, 2019, 11:07:04 AM »

Quote from: aygart on December 23, 2019, 11:05:21 AM

Is it fair? That depends.
So lets take a step back. How many years had they operated at a loss due to their investing in growth?

No we are not going to deflect. We can talk about loopholes later.

aygart · « **Reply #29173 on:** December 23, 2019, 11:08:14 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on December 23, 2019, 11:07:04 AM

No we are not going to deflect. We can talk about loopholes later.

Of course there are loopholes.

aygart · « **Reply #29174 on:** December 23, 2019, 11:08:45 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on December 23, 2019, 11:04:09 AM

Mine does.

Never heard it. How does it sound?

CountValentine · « **Reply #29175 on:** December 23, 2019, 11:09:34 AM »

Quote from: aygart on December 23, 2019, 10:59:01 AM

And what you write about taxes and healthcare.....

Now lets address healthcare. Believing every American should have decent healthcare is a liberal idea? Conservatives don't believe that?

CountValentine · « **Reply #29176 on:** December 23, 2019, 11:10:57 AM »

Quote from: aygart on December 23, 2019, 11:08:45 AM

Never heard it. How does it sound?

Come to church with me and you will find out. Wait you can't do that because your religion does not allow for that.

You want to make this about religion?

aygart · « **Reply #29177 on:** December 23, 2019, 11:15:38 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on December 23, 2019, 11:10:57 AM

Come to church with me and you will find out. Wait you can't do that because your religion does not allow for that.
You want to make this about religion?

You hear more than a preacher speaking?
Judaism's position over many centuries has been to not be involved in the personal moral character of kings and rulers. In the relatively recent applicability of how to vote in a representative government the concern has been primarily with policy.

Kobe Bryant · « **Reply #29178 on:** December 23, 2019, 11:52:23 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on December 23, 2019, 11:09:34 AM

Now lets address healthcare. Believing every American should have decent healthcare is a liberal idea? Conservatives don't believe that?

Its not a g'd given right.

CountValentine · « **Reply #29179 on:** December 23, 2019, 11:58:04 AM »

Quote from: Kobe bryent on December 23, 2019, 11:52:23 AM

Its not a g'd given right.

Since you invoked G-d. Do you believe your G-d would want everyone to have decent healthcare?

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