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Trump walks in a room.

1. Moshe123 shoots at him because he is pure evil, 2. ilherman+hachover jump in front of the bullets because Trump is our savior. 3. aygart tackles Moshe123 because Trump is better than HRC, 4. but Baruch can't stand Trump so he tells aygart he's crazy and Trump is a madman. 5. ExGingi would like to point out that who cares what he is, all that matters is the supreme court nominations. 6. Dan and others aren't really sure how this makes them feel plus they don't really want to drink poison. 7. Spoiler alert: Moshe123's gun was empty, it was just a blank.

And Freddie is in the back of the room just cooking his cholent. Until he announces that there are TWO menu choices, Pareve Cholent or Vegetable Lasagna. While etech0 figured out that they are both poisoned.


Repeat x100.

And then Hilary walks into the room with the most confidence a candidate has had in recent history. She is so confident that she eats both the Pareve Cholent and Vegetable Lasagna. Everyone is the room is aghast, they don't know how this happened, could it be Comey is behind this poisoning or was it that her Obamacare premiums were to high to get her the help she needed.

Everyone stared as she choked and was cast into oblivion on November, 8, 2016 the last day she was heard from in the public eye.

Moshe123, ilherman, hachover, Baruch, ExGingi, Dan, Freddie, etech0, and the rest of America are in total shock and hope that so long as Trump doesn't eat any Pareve Cholent and Vegetable Lasagna and stays true to his supreme court nominees this may be the greatest thing to happen since the CSR and GC's.

But remember this may be the beginning of the end...

P.S. Thanks to cognitive dissonance aygart, Michael Moore, and Scott Adams knew the whole time that Trump could win, unfortunately for JTZ he may be off DDF for the next 4 years due to his mandatory 3 times daily consumption of CROW!

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Sub notes:

Nov 8 : Time to edit the wiki. Biggest upset in American History according to Michael Isikoff.


http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=57647.0

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5952.html
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump?lang=en
http://blog.dilbert.com/
http://fivethirtyeight.com/
All Political Ads - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvuOH0oJFwElBgRKz-eMlLw

As things turns out, the most prescient view on this election was that of Michael Moore! Though Scott Adams is also claiming a high view level of prescience.


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Clinton
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Johnson
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I don't vote in general and won't be voting this year
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Author Topic: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread  (Read 3769934 times)

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29440 on: January 21, 2020, 05:52:25 PM »
How can you have a fair trial without witnesses?
I have seen it before when witnesses have been deposed prior to the trial. Here they were only deposed by prosecution and not defense so the only ones who have not had due process are the defense.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29441 on: January 21, 2020, 05:54:07 PM »
@CountValentine , do you believe that a defendant should submit to a "fair trial" when the prosecutor (or the police) were partial/biased in a way that led them to build the case unfairly? Or should said defendant move to dismiss the case?

Or better put, would such a trial be "fair"?

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29442 on: January 21, 2020, 05:56:10 PM »
you can have a trial without witnesses if there is other evidence that can be examined

also why are you yelling about a fair trial now when the indictment was not done fairly
The indictment was like a grand jury indictment, they always get their way. That is why we have trials and not convictions on indictments. Everyone should want a fair trial no matter what your political view is. The only one I see calling for that here is me. Why is that?
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29443 on: January 21, 2020, 05:57:13 PM »
I have seen it before when witnesses have been deposed prior to the trial. Here they were only deposed by prosecution and not defense so the only ones who have not had due process are the defense.
You are confusing the house proceedings with the senate trial.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29444 on: January 21, 2020, 05:57:45 PM »
because most believe here that trump has not been treated fairly till now

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29445 on: January 21, 2020, 05:59:28 PM »
@CountValentine , do you believe that a defendant should submit to a "fair trial" when the prosecutor (or the police) were partial/biased in a way that led them to build the case unfairly? Or should said defendant move to dismiss the case?

Or better put, would such a trial be "fair"?
If he believes they built the case unfairly of course he should try and get the case dismissed. The only way he could get a fair trial is by calling witnesses.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29446 on: January 21, 2020, 06:10:13 PM »
If he believes they built the case unfairly of course he should try and get the case dismissed. The only way he could get a fair trial is by calling witnesses.
Do you mean that you would be for the Senate dismissiong without trial?
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29447 on: January 21, 2020, 06:12:04 PM »
Do you mean that you would be for the Senate dismissiong without trial?
I would be OK with Chief Justice Roberts dismissing.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29448 on: January 21, 2020, 06:12:52 PM »
Jay needs to take a chill pill. Did he just find out his wife cheated on him?  :)
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29449 on: January 21, 2020, 06:14:36 PM »
I would be OK with Chief Justice Roberts dismissing.
He has no power to dismiss.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29450 on: January 21, 2020, 06:19:30 PM »
He has no power to dismiss.
When the leader of the majority (who has all the power) say he will not be impartial, then takes an oath to be impartial, I have no trust in him to do the right thing. So to your original question it would be no for that reason.

Now a simple question for you. For a fair trial should there be witnesses from both sides?
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29451 on: January 21, 2020, 06:31:09 PM »
The only way he could get a fair trial is by calling witnesses.

Huh? In the scenario I gave, the only reason there is any discussion of a trial is because of a biased investigation. Why should there be any trial, let alone one in which the ones who were unfair until now set the terms?

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29452 on: January 21, 2020, 06:33:09 PM »
How can you have a fair trial without witnesses?
why are you supposed to bring new witnesses that were not part of the original case?
And do you really feel that by bringing witnesses the trial becomes (so called) fair?

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29453 on: January 21, 2020, 06:35:08 PM »
Huh? In the scenario I gave, the only reason there is any discussion of a trial is because of a biased investigation. Why should there be any trial, let alone one in which the ones who were unfair until now set the terms?
Just because the one being charged feels he was charged unfairly doesn't make it so. Once it proceeds to the trial stage then witnesses need to be called to be fair and try to find the truth.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29454 on: January 21, 2020, 06:36:50 PM »
why are you supposed to bring new witnesses that were not part of the original case?
And do you really feel that by bringing witnesses the trial becomes (so called) fair?
What original case? I am no lawyer but I am pretty sure both sides are allowed to call witnesses that were not part of the original indictment.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29455 on: January 21, 2020, 06:42:11 PM »
Just because the one being charged feels he was charged unfairly doesn't make it so. Once it proceeds to the trial stage then witnesses need to be called to fair and try to find the truth.
so you want to call witnesses from Congress like Adam schiff to testify on how this whole thing started and how they were colluding with the whistle blower?



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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29456 on: January 21, 2020, 06:46:35 PM »
so you want to call witnesses from Congress like Adam schiff to testify on how this whole thing started and how they were colluding with the whistle blower?
Look you can't take politics out of this so what is the point? You will defend this guy against basic laws we live by. Not only you but so far everyone that responded. I would ask why is that but I already know.  ;)
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29457 on: January 21, 2020, 06:58:29 PM »
Just because the one being charged feels he was charged unfairly doesn't make it so.

What you aren't getting is that when people say the process in the House wasn't fair, they aren't saying "they were biased, so we will be too" they are saying that being fair for only half of the process is not fair.

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29458 on: January 21, 2020, 07:00:28 PM »
Look you can't take politics out of this so what is the point?

You can't take politics out of a process that is inherently political.

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29459 on: January 21, 2020, 07:03:16 PM »
What you aren't getting is that when people say the process in the House wasn't fair, they aren't saying "they were biased, so we will be too" they are saying that being fair for only half of the process is not fair.
What you are not getting is because they say it wasn't fair doesn't mean so. The country is split and more important I's are split. So this isn't cut and dry either way.
We are pass that stage so the question now is do you want a fair trial? So let me ask you, do you?
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