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Trump walks in a room.

1. Moshe123 shoots at him because he is pure evil, 2. ilherman+hachover jump in front of the bullets because Trump is our savior. 3. aygart tackles Moshe123 because Trump is better than HRC, 4. but Baruch can't stand Trump so he tells aygart he's crazy and Trump is a madman. 5. ExGingi would like to point out that who cares what he is, all that matters is the supreme court nominations. 6. Dan and others aren't really sure how this makes them feel plus they don't really want to drink poison. 7. Spoiler alert: Moshe123's gun was empty, it was just a blank.

And Freddie is in the back of the room just cooking his cholent. Until he announces that there are TWO menu choices, Pareve Cholent or Vegetable Lasagna. While etech0 figured out that they are both poisoned.


Repeat x100.

And then Hilary walks into the room with the most confidence a candidate has had in recent history. She is so confident that she eats both the Pareve Cholent and Vegetable Lasagna. Everyone is the room is aghast, they don't know how this happened, could it be Comey is behind this poisoning or was it that her Obamacare premiums were to high to get her the help she needed.

Everyone stared as she choked and was cast into oblivion on November, 8, 2016 the last day she was heard from in the public eye.

Moshe123, ilherman, hachover, Baruch, ExGingi, Dan, Freddie, etech0, and the rest of America are in total shock and hope that so long as Trump doesn't eat any Pareve Cholent and Vegetable Lasagna and stays true to his supreme court nominees this may be the greatest thing to happen since the CSR and GC's.

But remember this may be the beginning of the end...

P.S. Thanks to cognitive dissonance aygart, Michael Moore, and Scott Adams knew the whole time that Trump could win, unfortunately for JTZ he may be off DDF for the next 4 years due to his mandatory 3 times daily consumption of CROW!

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Sub notes:

Nov 8 : Time to edit the wiki. Biggest upset in American History according to Michael Isikoff.


http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=57647.0

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5952.html
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump?lang=en
http://blog.dilbert.com/
http://fivethirtyeight.com/
All Political Ads - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvuOH0oJFwElBgRKz-eMlLw

As things turns out, the most prescient view on this election was that of Michael Moore! Though Scott Adams is also claiming a high view level of prescience.


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Author Topic: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread  (Read 3769005 times)

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29520 on: January 22, 2020, 09:22:07 AM »
The constitution is one sentence which says that the Senate is the Trial phase.
I guess you don't know the constitution so now I understand why you are lost. Here is what the constitution says without your twisting on the words: The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29521 on: January 22, 2020, 09:30:39 AM »
I guess you don't know the constitution so now I understand why you are lost. Here is what the constitution says without your twisting on the words: The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments.

Um, a trial is where you try a case.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29522 on: January 22, 2020, 09:35:58 AM »
Um, a trial is where you try a case.
Um you tried to twist it into a phase. There is no phase mention in the constitution. You made that up because you were caught!!!
There was an indictment, not a conviction. Now the senate has full control to try this case which means they can have discovery, witnesses, documents among other things they need to render a fair verdict. How deep you going to dig this whole you are in?
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29523 on: January 22, 2020, 09:39:26 AM »
They should call witnesses but it should not be at the House's behest. They had their chance.
Wrong!!! Any person that is impartial would want a material witness to testify.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29524 on: January 22, 2020, 09:41:03 AM »
Lets slow down and back up for a minute. According to our constitution is the Senate allowed to call John Bolton as a witness in this trial?
Bump since it seems @aygart missed this simple yes or no question.  :)
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29525 on: January 22, 2020, 09:52:35 AM »
Bump since it seems @aygart missed this simple yes or no question.  :)
You have not answered mine yet.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29526 on: January 22, 2020, 09:53:28 AM »
Wrong!!! Any person that is impartial would want a material witness to testify.
You are about as impartial as Adam Schiff considering how you are regurgitating everything he says.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29527 on: January 22, 2020, 09:54:19 AM »
You have not answered mine yet.
You are mistaken. I answered your question then you tapped dance around my next question. So you are up if you want to be fair.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29528 on: January 22, 2020, 09:55:48 AM »
You are about as impartial as Adam Schiff considering how you are regurgitating everything he says.
Nice try but it doesn't hold water. Any true fair and impartial American believes there should be witnesses. I stand with them.  :P

@aygart does not want a material witness to be called.
CV wants a material witness to be called.
Which one is the true, fair, and impartial American.  :)
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29529 on: January 22, 2020, 10:03:27 AM »
if John bolton wasn't important enough to have been called to testify in the House then why should the Senate call him. If the House wanted him they could have gone to court to compel him to testify. they didn't so why should we care now what he has to say

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29530 on: January 22, 2020, 10:22:59 AM »
if John bolton wasn't important enough to have been called to testify in the House then why should the Senate call him. If the House wanted him they could have gone to court to compel him to testify. they didn't so why should we care now what he has to say
Because JB said he would fight the subpoena. Now he is willing to testify. They have a subpoena from April of last year still in limbo for DM. Now you can agree or disagree with THEIR logic and that is fine. What there should be no disagreement about is calling a material witness to the case. Anyone impartial would want that.

Political position = Don't call JB
Impartial position = Call JB and any other material relevant to the case to make an informed decision.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29531 on: January 22, 2020, 10:26:33 AM »
Because JB said he would fight the subpoena. Now he is willing to testify. They have a subpoena from April of last year still in limbo for DM. Now you can agree or disagree with THEIR logic and that is fine. What there should be no disagreement about is calling a material witness to the case. Anyone impartial would want that.

Do you think any weight should be given to an indictment in which material witnesses were not heard from?

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29532 on: January 22, 2020, 10:32:52 AM »
Do you think any weight should be given to an indictment in which material witnesses were not heard from?
Are you talking about this case or in general? I would want ever material witnesses called in the indictment part also.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29533 on: January 22, 2020, 11:40:21 AM »
These guys would be perfect candidates for the biggest swamp we have ever seen. How Trumpsters are in jail or convicted?

“First of all, Jerrold Nadler, I’ve known him a long time, he’s a sleazebag. Everybody knows that,” the president said, adding that Schiff acts like he’s “so aggrieved.”
“I watched the lies from Adam Schiff,” he continued. “He’s a liar and he’s a fraud.”
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29534 on: January 22, 2020, 12:45:48 PM »
Are you talking about this case or in general?

Both.

I would want ever material witnesses called in the indictment part also.
So why were you celebrating when the impeachment went through without those witnesses, while screaming bloody murder when the Senate says that they will decide if (additional) witnesses are necessary once they hear the evidence?

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29535 on: January 22, 2020, 02:06:31 PM »
So why were you celebrating when the impeachment went through without those witnesses, while screaming bloody murder when the Senate says that they will decide if (additional) witnesses are necessary once they hear the evidence?
First no one is SREAMING bloody murder.  :)
They felt they didn't need JB to impeach and the R's didn't want him called. I would have like to seen him testify.

Trump is now impeached (indicted, not tried) so now the Senate has the ball. You can't have a fair trial for either side without a material witness that is now willing to testify.

Anyone who agues it can be a fair trial without material witnesses looks like a fool and partisan hack.

The R's have the votes and don't want any witnesses, documents or anything else. We all understand that. Just don't look foolish trying to argue that will be a fair trial.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29536 on: January 22, 2020, 02:10:12 PM »
Fair impeachment trials ended with the 17th amendment.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29537 on: January 22, 2020, 02:11:04 PM »
Schiff lecturing Trump about wielding political tools against your opponents. Can't make this stuff up.

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29538 on: January 22, 2020, 02:26:20 PM »
Fair impeachment trials ended with the 17th amendment.
At least you are switching gears after getting knocked out.  :)
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29539 on: January 22, 2020, 02:44:56 PM »
At least you are switching gears after getting knocked out.  :)
At no point did I say it will be a fair trial. I had been saying that it won't be since the whole sham started. I just lost interest in seeing you repeat one sided talking points that have nothing to do with reality.
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