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Trump walks in a room.

1. Moshe123 shoots at him because he is pure evil, 2. ilherman+hachover jump in front of the bullets because Trump is our savior. 3. aygart tackles Moshe123 because Trump is better than HRC, 4. but Baruch can't stand Trump so he tells aygart he's crazy and Trump is a madman. 5. ExGingi would like to point out that who cares what he is, all that matters is the supreme court nominations. 6. Dan and others aren't really sure how this makes them feel plus they don't really want to drink poison. 7. Spoiler alert: Moshe123's gun was empty, it was just a blank.

And Freddie is in the back of the room just cooking his cholent. Until he announces that there are TWO menu choices, Pareve Cholent or Vegetable Lasagna. While etech0 figured out that they are both poisoned.


Repeat x100.

And then Hilary walks into the room with the most confidence a candidate has had in recent history. She is so confident that she eats both the Pareve Cholent and Vegetable Lasagna. Everyone is the room is aghast, they don't know how this happened, could it be Comey is behind this poisoning or was it that her Obamacare premiums were to high to get her the help she needed.

Everyone stared as she choked and was cast into oblivion on November, 8, 2016 the last day she was heard from in the public eye.

Moshe123, ilherman, hachover, Baruch, ExGingi, Dan, Freddie, etech0, and the rest of America are in total shock and hope that so long as Trump doesn't eat any Pareve Cholent and Vegetable Lasagna and stays true to his supreme court nominees this may be the greatest thing to happen since the CSR and GC's.

But remember this may be the beginning of the end...

P.S. Thanks to cognitive dissonance aygart, Michael Moore, and Scott Adams knew the whole time that Trump could win, unfortunately for JTZ he may be off DDF for the next 4 years due to his mandatory 3 times daily consumption of CROW!

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Sub notes:

Nov 8 : Time to edit the wiki. Biggest upset in American History according to Michael Isikoff.


http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=57647.0

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5952.html
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump?lang=en
http://blog.dilbert.com/
http://fivethirtyeight.com/
All Political Ads - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvuOH0oJFwElBgRKz-eMlLw

As things turns out, the most prescient view on this election was that of Michael Moore! Though Scott Adams is also claiming a high view level of prescience.


Poll

Who are you voting for?

Clinton
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Johnson
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Other (Write in)
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I don't vote in general and won't be voting this year
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Author Topic: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread  (Read 3769751 times)

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29600 on: January 23, 2020, 11:13:51 AM »
Of course there are people that are Independent thinkers that aren't automatically going to vote one way or the other.

2 points, though.

1. In the age of Trump this has dramatically decreased as he's such a polarizing figure, it's harder to really be impartial.

2. I's can be swayed by politics. That's why each side is trying so hard to get their message out to the media. Their bases+moderates are already with them. It's the fight of the I's.
I would agree but would change I's can be swayed by facts mostly.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29601 on: January 23, 2020, 11:18:29 AM »
I would agree but would change I's can be swayed by facts mostly.
Of course facts. But those facts are being worked out in the party's PR war rooms.

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29602 on: January 23, 2020, 11:21:47 AM »
Of course facts. But those facts are being worked out in the party's PR war rooms.
That makes it harder. Just as an example if you ask I's if either side can be trusted in the impeachment trial they would say no (most of them). They would want to hear from the witnesses themselves instead of these useless speeches.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29603 on: January 23, 2020, 11:22:36 AM »
@CountValentine will you explain what you mean by I

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29604 on: January 23, 2020, 11:28:16 AM »
@CountValentine will you explain what you mean by I
They don't associate with either party. We can have 1k pages on this and not accomplish anything. What is your view of an I?
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29605 on: January 23, 2020, 11:30:56 AM »
That makes it harder. Just as an example if you ask I's if either side can be trusted in the impeachment trial they would say no (most of them). They would want to hear from the witnesses themselves instead of these useless speeches.
Correct. Because they are the only one that actually want a impartial impeachment. The question is who they will blame for it not being one....that's when the well crafted PR media interviews come into play..

The others...

This entire thing is a political play.

The D's fast tracked it ( no cross examinations/No minority witnesses/no subpoena fights in court, etc ). No Rs voted for it.

This is entirely understood. It's called politics.

The Rs want to fast track it, ( no witnesses/no WH subpoenas/3 days of 12hr shifts per side etc ). No Ds will vote against it. ( Maybe Jones)

This again is entirely understood. It's called politics.

Now if we want a discussion about right & wrong? Impartial jurors? Witnesses? Subpoenas? Real transcripts? Constitution? Founding fathers?

Sure. Let's start a real impeachment hearing in the House...

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29606 on: January 23, 2020, 11:33:55 AM »
Correct. Because they are the only one that actually want a impartial impeachment. The question is who they will blame for it not being one....that's when the well crafted PR media interviews come into play..
Going to be pretty hard to convince an I that a trial without witnesses is fair. The best chance the R's have is try and blame the D's for that but it won't fly when they have control.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29607 on: January 23, 2020, 11:41:23 AM »
They don't associate with either party. We can have 1k pages on this and not accomplish anything. What is your view of an I?

I agree with you that they are not associated with either party

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29608 on: January 23, 2020, 11:43:19 AM »
I agree with you that they are not associated with either party
Can't add anything?
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29609 on: January 23, 2020, 11:45:17 AM »
Going to be pretty hard to convince an I that a trial without witnesses is fair. The best chance the R's have is try and blame the D's for that but it won't fly when they have control.
That's obviously the D's strategy. Play politics but hold the other party accountable.
I agree with you that they are not associated with either party
They have voted for R's & D's in past. ( From local all the way up to POTUS ) And are open to doing so again in the future.

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29610 on: January 23, 2020, 11:51:28 AM »
That's obviously the D's strategy. Play politics but hold the other party accountable.
I am willing to bet they look at it as both sides strategy.
Lets take something that is talked about now. D's want to call Bolton and R's want to call Biden. How do you think they will look at that?
 
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29611 on: January 23, 2020, 12:11:54 PM »
Can't add anything?

I could but I would just be called a Kool-aid drinker

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29612 on: January 23, 2020, 12:14:25 PM »
I could but I would just be called a Kool-aid drinker
Go for it.  :)
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29613 on: January 23, 2020, 12:24:37 PM »


I am willing to bet they look at it as both sides strategy.

Was responding to this
Going to be pretty hard to convince an I that a trial without witnesses is fair. The best chance the R's have is try and blame the D's for that but it won't fly when they have control.



Lets take something that is talked about now. D's want to call Bolton and R's want to call Biden. How do you think they will look at that?





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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29614 on: January 23, 2020, 12:33:45 PM »

Take a guess as that is all we have.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29615 on: January 23, 2020, 12:36:32 PM »
I'm so gonna regret posting here...

D's want to call Bolton and R's want to call Biden. How do you think they will look at that?
I think it's a mistake to want to call Biden.

It's irrelevant to this trial whether or not what Biden did was actually corrupt or illegal, (and I don't think that's what the focus should be,) what matters is whether there is a legitimate case to be made that there's at least the appearance of corruption, i.e. it is something which should be investigated. You don't need Biden to testify to establish that.

I think who they should be calling to testify is Schiff and/or the "whistelblower."

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29616 on: January 23, 2020, 12:52:41 PM »
You don't want to see any argument. If you don't know the argument for impeachment by now then you are drinking more than Kool-Aid. It is one  thing to say you don't agree with the argument but to so say there is no argument is straight from Trumps Kool-Aid pitcher. 

For the record, I didn't say I "don't know the argument," I said "they have no legitimate case for impeachment and this is all a big sham."
When you have an actual argument on the merits wake me up, until then I'm out.

No amount of TDS will change the fact that they have no legitimate case for impeachment and this is all a big sham.

And after watching a small part of Schiff's presentation yesterday, I'm even more convinced of this than ever. Now I'll admit, had I not watched almost all of the house hearings, I might've been fooled by him. But having watched all the testimony (particularly the cross examinatons,) I knew that everything he said was (at best) either conjecture, a misrepresentation, or debunked.

In fact, I would even say that based on all the current evidence, it's not even possible to make an honest case for impeachment.

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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29617 on: January 23, 2020, 12:53:34 PM »
I'm so gonna regret posting here...
Why? Seems logical to me.
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Re: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #29619 on: January 23, 2020, 12:56:01 PM »
For the record, I didn't say I "don't know the argument," I said "they have no legitimate case for impeachment and this is all a big sham."
Fair enough. Most of the country would disagree with you by a wide margin.
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