Author Topic: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread (Read 3847028 times)

CountValentine · « **Reply #29860 on:** January 28, 2020, 03:47:34 PM »

Quote from: aygart on January 28, 2020, 03:45:07 PM

That would be me. Considering that there is no legal standard given anywhere that is what we are left with.

We have trial guidelines that they agreed to. Why not agree to a standard?

whYME · « **Reply #29861 on:** January 28, 2020, 03:57:46 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on January 28, 2020, 03:44:55 PM

January 28, 2020 - 75% Of Voters Say Allow Witnesses In Senate Impeachment Trial
Source = FOX news reporting latest poll out today.
Support for witness testimony includes 49 percent of Republicans. WOW!!!

75%!!! The country understands why there must be witnesses. Why is it so hard for so many here to understand this?

Quote from: whYME on January 23, 2020, 01:16:13 PM

So the argument ... is basically "most of the country is paying more attention to CNN headlines than to the actual proceedings / evidence?"

Quote from: https://apnews.com/42e3b7bcb60937c9d52679547fcc01a1

Online and on TV, interest has waned since the House launched impeachment hearings into Trump’s dealings with Ukraine.

The six major networks drew about 11.8 million viewers on the first day of the Senate trial, when lawmakers debated the rules and argued over documents and witnesses.

Combined viewership plummeted to fewer than 9 million people on the trial’s second day, when House Democrats began making their argument to remove Trump from office, according to Nielsen.

https://apnews.com/42e3b7bcb60937c9d52679547fcc01a1

aygart · « **Reply #29862 on:** January 28, 2020, 05:02:46 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on January 28, 2020, 03:46:14 PM

Not going to happen but lets say Trump was convicted. Could he go to the SCOTUS?

Precedent is that they wouldn't get involved.

BP16 · « **Reply #29863 on:** January 28, 2020, 05:03:37 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on January 28, 2020, 03:44:55 PM

January 28, 2020 - 75% Of Voters Say Allow Witnesses In Senate Impeachment Trial
Source = FOX news reporting latest poll out today.
Support for witness testimony includes 49 percent of Republicans. WOW!!!

75%!!! The country understands why there must be witnesses. Why is it so hard for so many here to understand this?

I guess they want to hear from Hunter and this whistleblower.

aygart · « **Reply #29864 on:** January 28, 2020, 05:04:05 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on January 28, 2020, 03:47:34 PM

We have trial guidelines that they agreed to. Why not agree to a standard?

They can potentially agree to standards if they wish, but that would be essentially equivalent to not having rules and how do you keep anyone to it.

CountValentine · « **Reply #29865 on:** January 28, 2020, 05:15:47 PM »

Quote from: BP16 on January 28, 2020, 05:03:37 PM

I guess they want to hear from Hunter and this whistleblower.

Maybe.

CountValentine · « **Reply #29866 on:** January 28, 2020, 06:50:33 PM »

GOP Doesn't Have Enough Votes to Block Impeachment Witnesses
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gop-doesnt-have-enough-votes-to-block-impeachment-witnesses/ar-BBZoXJf?ocid=spartanntp

ExGingi · « **Reply #29867 on:** January 28, 2020, 07:18:41 PM »

@CountValentine special:

http://www.forecastsandtrends.com/article.php/1206/

CountValentine · « **Reply #29868 on:** January 28, 2020, 08:20:43 PM »

Quote from: ExGingi on January 28, 2020, 07:18:41 PM

@CountValentine special:

http://www.forecastsandtrends.com/article.php/1206/

Who is going to pay the bill?

The U.S. budget deficit is projected to swell past $1 trillion in 2020, according to a new report, as the government continues to spend more than it raises despite an economy that is growing steadily.

yossig · « **Reply #29869 on:** January 28, 2020, 08:28:52 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on January 28, 2020, 08:20:43 PM

Who is going to pay the bill?

The U.S. budget deficit is projected to swell past $1 trillion in 2020, according to a new report, as the government continues to spend more than it raises despite an economy that is growing steadily.

please hold the CTRL button down then hit the letter B

Jellybelly · « **Reply #29870 on:** January 29, 2020, 12:26:05 AM »

How does this work? Once they decide to call for witnesses, wont it drag out for months? Im
Sure Trump will try to block anyone from his administration so it would get dragged on and if he loses he could always appeal. So does that mean the Dem senators running for president would have to drop out?

CountValentine · « **Reply #29871 on:** January 29, 2020, 06:37:28 AM »

I am guessing the trial would be on hold until SCOUTS decides. It should be fast tracked and maybe only take weeks. Trump is in a bad spot if he blocks testimony.

CountValentine · « **Reply #29872 on:** January 29, 2020, 01:08:02 PM »

An all out attack on Bolton from the president and right wingnuts. This guy was their posterchild. The only thing that changed is the allegation against our coward scumbag president.

We have Trump/Giuliani against Bolton/Kelly. Who would you believe?

CountValentine · « **Reply #29873 on:** January 29, 2020, 01:11:32 PM »

NSC rules the book can not be published in current form. There is classified and top secret information according to NSC in the book.

whYME · « **Reply #29874 on:** January 29, 2020, 03:17:02 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on January 29, 2020, 01:08:02 PM

We have Trump/Giuliani against Bolton/Kelly. Who would you believe?

Actually (unless something changed since last night,) at this point it's "anonymous sources"/NYT writers against Trump/Giuliani/Barr

BP16 · « **Reply #29875 on:** January 29, 2020, 03:22:11 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on January 29, 2020, 06:37:28 AM

I am guessing the trial would be on hold until SCOUTS decides. It should be fast tracked and maybe only take weeks. Trump is in a bad spot if he blocks testimony.

Nothing will change it wont change the result he will still be acquitted! And he will still Win in 2020!

Kobe Bryant · « **Reply #29876 on:** January 29, 2020, 03:23:56 PM »

Quote from: BP16 on January 29, 2020, 03:22:11 PM

Nothing will change it wont change the result he will still be acquitted! And he will still Win in 2020!

Trump vs Sanders .
And POTUS wins in a landslide....

dealfinder11 · « **Reply #29877 on:** January 29, 2020, 07:54:23 PM »

Quote from: Kobe bryent on January 29, 2020, 03:23:56 PM

Trump vs Sanders .
And POTUS wins in a landslide....

I'm old enough to remember when Democrats salivated at the idea of Trump winning the nomination.

zale · « **Reply #29878 on:** January 30, 2020, 10:52:46 AM »

Quote from: dealfinder11 on January 29, 2020, 07:54:23 PM

I'm old enough to remember when Democrats salivated at the idea of Trump winning the nomination.

I see people making this comparison a lot. I disagree.

Trump was (and still is) far LESS Conservative than the other contenders. He broke with traditional Right-wing philosophy on many issues. A massive part of the Republican electorate were sick and tired of the Left cr@pping on America day in and day out and their cohorts in the media leading the way. They were equally sick and tired of milquetoast Republicans Kowtowing to the Left every time the media said "boo" (a la Mitt Romney). So despite the fact that Trump is closer to the center, and a loony man who is not exactly known for his own Conservative values, they wanted him.

Trump fans largely hid the fact that they were voting for him for fear of repercussions by the demented Left-wing media . On election day they came out in droves from every cave to vote for him. Pollsters came up speechless after 2016. There is a solid chance that whatever the poll numbers show for Trump, it's likely to be 15% higher.

Bernie is far MORE Left than the other contenders. He takes all the Left's positions to an EXTREME. He has no connection to the center. Bernie fans are NOT hiding the fact that they support him. They are not facing persecution for supporting him, and they are very outspoken about it. What you see in the polls are probably within the margin of error of his support. His base is the FAR LEFT. Sure, he will pull a large amount of other Democrats who hate Trump, but they will come out to the extent they came out for Clinton.

I will note that certain things can change the landscape of this election. If the economy turns sour, it can vastly diminish Trump's chances of winning.

Kobe Bryant · « **Reply #29879 on:** January 30, 2020, 11:26:58 AM »

Quote from: dealfinder11 on January 29, 2020, 07:54:23 PM

I'm old enough to remember when Democrats salivated at the idea of Trump winning the nomination.

Not a wish, but a prediction.

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