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Re: building a sukkah shlock
« Reply #40 on: September 14, 2018, 01:58:09 AM »
I agree itís convenient to have but is it really worth the all the time and money that is put into it.
Absolutely. For some people they use that as their main room. Many times itís a lot more roomy for all the married kids than their regular dining room.

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Re: building a sukkah shlock
« Reply #41 on: September 14, 2018, 03:16:14 AM »
Absolutely. For some people they use that as their main room. Many times itís a lot more roomy for all the married kids than their regular dining room.
in my regular dining room/ kitchen I can fit about 8 people. In my sukkah I can fit at least 30

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Re: building a sukkah shlock
« Reply #42 on: September 14, 2018, 03:29:34 AM »
I agree itís convenient to have but is it really worth the all the time and money that is put into it.
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I've built one the last 2 years and are going to forgo on one this year. Waay too much work and time

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Re: building a sukkah shlock
« Reply #43 on: September 14, 2018, 06:14:58 AM »
Ok I have to ask
What is it with Ashkenazim and there schlock? Why canít u just leave when itís raining and come out with a towel when it stops
Because.. in middle eastern countries, where the Sefardim come from, it rarely rains on Sukkos ( think Israel..  )
However in Europe , were Ashkenazim originate, It rains on Sukkos.. 
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Re: building a sukkah shlock
« Reply #44 on: September 14, 2018, 10:47:32 AM »


I'm considering placing my schach support beams on an angle and just letting the shlock roll up and down the stairs. It would seem to give a tarp shlock considerably more support and avoid sagging. Has anyone ever tried this? Also, if I place the schach mats on a slope and put several layers of schach, shouldn't that keep all but the strongest rains out? Presumably the rain will just roll down the schach.... thoughts?

I'm not sure if I.understand you correctly, here's what I do and you can see if it helps.
I have all my succa walls on a slant (which means the schach beams and schach is as well.) This allows the water to flow down the succa (I'm obviously talking with a tarp.) I don't use the incline to role the tarp up and down, so there's no need for a crazy slope, a good few inches throughout the succa is plenty. I wouldn't advise a big slant as I find it allows the wind to come under, and the schach to bunch etc unless your willing to tie down in which case I have no experience. Just remember, for water to flow and not bunch up in one place, there's a need for a slight slant, hard surface (the schach in my case) and most of all a tight tight tarp.

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Re: building a sukkah shlock
« Reply #45 on: September 14, 2018, 10:50:19 AM »
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I've built one the last 2 years and are going to forgo on one this year. Waay too much work and time
The time is annoying but after a few tries, I have found what works and now takes less then an hour to put up. Personally that's worth it.

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Re: building a sukkah shlock
« Reply #46 on: September 14, 2018, 10:53:25 AM »
The time is annoying but after a few tries, I have found what works and now takes less then an hour to put up. Personally that's worth it.
Probably depends on the size of the sukkah... Mine is an 8x20

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Re: building a sukkah shlock
« Reply #47 on: September 14, 2018, 10:53:44 AM »
Because.. in middle eastern countries, where the Sefardim come from, it rarely rains on Sukkos ( think Israel..  )
However in Europe , were Ashkenazim originate, It rains on Sukkos..
Your probably right

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Re: building a sukkah shlock
« Reply #48 on: September 14, 2018, 10:59:36 AM »
Probably depends on the size of the sukkah... Mine is an 8x20
Mine is 10x24

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Re: building a sukkah shlock
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Re: building a sukkah shlock
« Reply #50 on: September 14, 2018, 11:31:40 AM »
Wow.
It's not so crazy. I just role the tarp the shorter way... Makes things much simpler.

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Re: building a sukkah shlock
« Reply #51 on: September 14, 2018, 11:32:22 AM »
It's not so crazy. I just role the tarp the shorter way... Makes things much simpler.
Aha, mine is in the width, and the pipe itself is a whole sugya

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Re: building a sukkah shlock
« Reply #52 on: September 14, 2018, 11:33:34 AM »
Aha, mine is in the width, and the pipe itself is a whole sugya
Change it. Def worth it.

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Re: building a sukkah shlock
« Reply #53 on: September 14, 2018, 11:41:23 AM »
It's not so crazy. I just role the tarp the shorter way... Makes things much simpler.

But if the Sukkah is 19x22, there's not much of a shorter way.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: building a sukkah shlock
« Reply #54 on: September 14, 2018, 11:54:51 AM »
But if the Sukkah is 19x22, there's not much of a shorter way.
Build a new sukka... Jk
Yea your right. You would need a slightly larger incline, and some support to make sure it roles properly.

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Re: building a sukkah shlock
« Reply #55 on: September 14, 2018, 12:00:27 PM »
Build a new sukka... Jk
Yea your right. You would need a slightly larger incline, and some support to make sure it roles properly.

Or just forgo the whole thing, until I can figure out something.
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Re: building a sukkah shlock
« Reply #56 on: September 14, 2018, 12:02:33 PM »
Or just forgo the whole thing, until I can figure out something.
Figuring out doesn't come from forgoing it... It's trial and error.

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Re: building a sukkah shlock
« Reply #57 on: September 14, 2018, 12:32:03 PM »
Figuring out doesn't come from forgoing it... It's trial and error.

Not worth the effort at this point in my life. Don't forget that for me it's only something to be used when the Sukkah is not in use.
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Re: building a sukkah shlock
« Reply #58 on: September 14, 2018, 01:16:23 PM »
Mine is 10x24
I'm looking at 13x22. 3 walls are built in

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Re: building a sukkah shlock
« Reply #59 on: September 14, 2018, 05:18:11 PM »
I'm looking at 13x22. 3 walls are built in
Much better! 10 is a little skinny for a table... It's just just making it.