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[dealfinder85]

a)The whole premise of the thread is that the 'he's crazy so she doesn't need a get' p'sak was a mistake that will hurt yidishkeit if allowed to stand unchallenged.
b)I understand it was she who dragged her (1st) husband through the mud by demonstrating in public.
d)When someone lives outside the rules of halacha it is a private thing, but when she publicly claims it is within halacha, a public discussion is appropriate.

I dont disagree with a nor d.  However, ddf forums where ppl can spew anonymously and where there is no actual to'eles is not the proper forum.  If someone is truly concerned with a and d, speak to your rav and figure out the best way to go about spreading the word. Regarding b, how in the world does that make it ok for anonymous users to drag her through the mud on ddf. Unless you are all the husband himself, you are way out of line

[yochiek93]

a)The whole premise of the thread is that the 'he's crazy so she doesn't need a get' p'sak was a mistake that will hurt yidishkeit if allowed to stand unchallenged.
b)I understand it was she who dragged her (1st) husband through the mud by demonstrating in public.
d)When someone lives outside the rules of halacha it is a private thing, but when she publicly claims it is within halacha, a public discussion is appropriate.

Not to start this argument here, could be the the start of the thread was for good purposes but it ended up just bashing rabbonim

[dealfinder85]

Not to start this argument here, could be the the start of the thread was for good purposes but it ended up just bashing rabbonim

that too

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I still argue that a husband's responsibility in the kesuvah is to pleasure her... the second he becomes a prick or abusive or cheats, he doesnt pleasure her so, therefor, she should be allowed to demand a get

[akivak]

I still argue that a husband's responsibility in the kesuvah is to pleasure her... the second he becomes a prick or abusive or cheats, he doesnt pleasure her so, therefor, she should be allowed to demand a get

You would make a gr8 rabbi!

[David Smith]

I still argue that a husband's responsibility in the kesuvah is to pleasure her... the second he becomes a prick or abusive or cheats, he doesnt pleasure her so, therefor, she should be allowed to demand a get

So tempted to answer, but I won't... because nobody deserves what the response would be.

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So tempted to answer, but I won't... because nobody deserves what the response would be.

You mean if its bedieved he can use his hands with a shinuy? or a kli rishon, kli sheni?

[CS91]

a)The whole premise of the thread is that the 'he's crazy so she doesn't need a get' p'sak was a mistake that will hurt yidishkeit if allowed to stand unchallenged.
b)I understand it was she who dragged her (1st) husband through the mud by demonstrating in public.
d)When someone lives outside the rules of halacha it is a private thing, but when she publicly claims it is within halacha, a public discussion is appropriate.

I'd love to know what you would do if you were in her shoes.

[chevron]

I'd love to know what you would do if you were in her shoes.

Remarry any one jewish or not, the system failed if it cant free an agunah.. i'd say "to hell with it"

[akivak]

Remarry any one jewish or not, the system failed if it cant free an agunah.. i'd say "to hell with it"

Really?

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Really?

The issue wont be fixed because agunot abide by it. If agunot remarried and caused momzerim, they'd fix the issue.

Doesnt it say "hoikim osoh ad sheyomer "rotzeh ani" and in todays day and age unless you want to serve 30 years in jail, we cant do it..

We are seemingly ok with men who abuse the get system..

[shoobi]

If you want to discuss the Tamar Epstein saga, please do so on its thread. DON'T clutter up another perfectly good thread. I for one don't know, and don't care at all, about it, so please keep this thread relevant and interesting.

[aygart]

Once it goes from men talking about their clothes to discussion about people discussing a spouse undergarments with their friends it should really be time.

[David Smith]

If you want to discuss the Tamar Epstein saga, please do so on its thread. DON'T clutter up another perfectly good thread. I for one don't know, and don't care at all, about it, so please keep this thread relevant and interesting.

This thread was 6 posts long, and contained a total of one link.

[churnbabychurn]

If you want to discuss the Tamar Epstein saga, please do so on its thread. DON'T clutter up another perfectly good thread. I for one don't know, and don't care at all, about it, so please keep this thread relevant and interesting.

+1

[username]

+1

[churnbabychurn]

Going through it, it literally seems like no one really knows anything about it. Just arguing based on personal convictions. Kind of like the rechnitz speech.

Know anything about what? - You can post your answer there. But don't try to sow misinformation as if there are really mitigating circumstances that noone knows about.

FYI, there are very little arguments in that thread. It's not like there are two legitimate sides to this coin.

[CS91]

FYI, there are very little arguments in that thread.

Ya. The reason for that might just be that most people here view you as a lost cause because your head is shoved so far up your a$$. It must be so easy for you to sit by your computer and anonymously drag Tamar through the mud by criticizing her actions. I'd bet my last dollar that if she was your sister or daughter (G-d forbid), you wouldn't be telling her "oh, sucks for you – Halacha is halacha so spend the rest of your life alone as an agunah."

[aygart]

Know anything about what? - You can post your answer there. But don't try to sow misinformation as if there are really mitigating circumstances that noone knows about.

FYI, there are very little arguments in that thread. It's not like there are two legitimate sides to this coin.

When and where did I imply I know any facts or "ins and outs"?

hmmmmmmm

[ckmk47]

... I'd bet my last dollar that if she was your sister or daughter (G-d forbid), you wouldn't be telling her "oh, sucks for you – Halacha is halacha so spend the rest of your life alone as an agunah."

There may have been other ways to have handled this problem.