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Re: Arab terrorist stabs and kills 2 in Jerusalem's old city!
« Reply #160 on: October 08, 2015, 12:15:19 PM »
Have you been on any of the forums you talked about?
No, and don't have the time to search. But I haven't been a non-Jew either. I thought you asked us to imagine.

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Re: Arab terrorist stabs and kills 2 in Jerusalem's old city!
« Reply #161 on: October 08, 2015, 12:17:52 PM »
What would they do?
Cut all benefit payments to the family of someone caught throwing a stone,  for starters

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Re: Arab terrorist stabs and kills 2 in Jerusalem's old city!
« Reply #162 on: October 08, 2015, 12:20:26 PM »
Cut all benefit payments to the family of someone caught throwing a stone,  for starters
Or really consider it a terrorist attack and arrest them

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Re: Arab terrorist stabs and kills 2 in Jerusalem's old city!
« Reply #163 on: October 08, 2015, 12:23:56 PM »
No, and don't have the time to search. But I haven't been a non-Jew either. I thought you asked us to imagine.
I don't expect you to spend the time on those forums that I have done here but if you did you would probably understand (might not agree) the point I am making.
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Re: Arab terrorist stabs and kills 2 in Jerusalem's old city!
« Reply #164 on: October 08, 2015, 12:24:53 PM »
Or really consider it a terrorist attack and arrest them
Wouldn't it be more like a hate crime?
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Re: Arab terrorist stabs and kills 2 in Jerusalem's old city!
« Reply #165 on: October 08, 2015, 12:25:52 PM »
Don't let me get away with anything. Call me out on it. I pretty much at the point where I done sugar coating my comments. You want to make this personal just let me know.
Wow CM is getting hammered here...

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Re: Arab terrorist stabs and kills 2 in Jerusalem's old city!
« Reply #166 on: October 08, 2015, 12:30:42 PM »
Wow CM is getting hammered here...
That's all from you?  :)
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Re: Arab terrorist stabs and kills 2 in Jerusalem's old city!
« Reply #167 on: October 08, 2015, 12:34:11 PM »
19 Arabs Dead After 3,000 Americans Also Die
Why don't i see this outrage every time the news reports that a natural disaster somewhere kills fifty people, including two Americans, and the article focuses on the Americans?
Not a Problem
the problem is when someone slams his Lexus in a tree rolls over twice and the headlines is  "Tree fall while car smashed into it and killed it's passengers"

the point is Not hey everybody talk about the incidents the point is you missed the boat.
BBC was Focusing on the terrorist being killed Instead of the victims, there was no outrage that "Times of India" didn't write about it.

I hope R' chiam would understand this

would be compared the car manufactures looking into "how to upgrade the vehicle such incidents shouldn't repeat itself" Totally not a problem.

It's not Arabs vs Israelis that is disturbing, it's that the shocking news is that a "terrorist was killed" While he stabbed someone, that is misleading it's readers.
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Re: Arab terrorist stabs and kills 2 in Jerusalem's old city!
« Reply #168 on: October 08, 2015, 12:34:31 PM »
Wouldn't it be more like a hate crime?
No because they claim its for a cause which makes it a terrorist attack not just against a certain race which is a hate crime

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Re: Arab terrorist stabs and kills 2 in Jerusalem's old city!
« Reply #169 on: October 08, 2015, 12:42:11 PM »

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Re: Arab terrorist stabs and kills 2 in Jerusalem's old city!
« Reply #170 on: October 08, 2015, 12:45:51 PM »
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Re: Arab terrorist stabs and kills 2 in Jerusalem's old city!
« Reply #171 on: October 08, 2015, 12:49:48 PM »
It's not Arabs vs Israelis that is disturbing, it's that the shocking news is that a "terrorist was killed" While he stabbed someone, that is misleading it's readers.
Huh? Either i don't know what you're talking about, or you don't. Did you understand the point and context of the posts you quoted?
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: Arab terrorist stabs and kills 2 in Jerusalem's old city!
« Reply #172 on: October 08, 2015, 12:53:11 PM »
No because they claim its for a cause which makes it a terrorist attack not just against a certain race which is a hate crime
I thought they were being killed because they were Jews, no?
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Re: Arab terrorist stabs and kills 2 in Jerusalem's old city!
« Reply #173 on: October 08, 2015, 12:56:05 PM »
I thought they were being killed because they were Jews, no?
That's the real reason but since they claim its for a cause its called terrorism

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Re: Arab terrorist stabs and kills 2 in Jerusalem's old city!
« Reply #174 on: October 08, 2015, 12:56:13 PM »
I thought they were being killed because they were Jews, no?
Correct, that makes it a hate crime. In addition, being as it was to promote a certain ideology, that's gives it the additional severity of a terrorist attack, and not a civil crime. There are different laws pertaining to terrorist attacks than there are to personal offenses.
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Re: Arab terrorist stabs and kills 2 in Jerusalem's old city!
« Reply #175 on: October 08, 2015, 01:02:40 PM »
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What did they manipulate?
Asking what was wrong with the headline saying that a Palestinian was killed, when in reality he was a terrorist attacking people.

The someone called him a toll here
Troll

To which he replied
Because I don't agree with your selective outrage? Wasn't there a mass shooting here in the US just recently. Where is the outrage over that?

And then a long discussion ensued about Jews not caring about other tragedies and how this may or may not be different...

That is where the issues were confused, good sam was calling CM a troll because he asked what part of the headline was manipulated.

That was trolling IMNSHO and as shown from fake 9/11 headlines that it is a completely ridiculous headline.

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Re: Arab terrorist stabs and kills 2 in Jerusalem's old city!
« Reply #176 on: October 08, 2015, 01:11:11 PM »
I don't expect you to spend the time on those forums that I have done here but if you did you would probably understand (might not agree) the point I am making.
You still go on that you really have a point? How about replying here? You seemed to ignore it..

Chaim, maybe I'll do a better job explaining what you are missing. The tragedies that happen in in Israel are totally different than most tragedies that happen in the US. Hence why it gets more attention. I'll explain the simple difference. In Israel the last couple of weeks Jews are getting killed JUST because they are Jews. Its been like that since we are around We were always hatred. Now since we all share the same ethnicity it really bothers and hurts us. Its different than most fatal school shootings etc where some idiot forgot to take his pills and toke a rifle and shot 20 kids. We all have family and friends living and that area and we are all afraid for their well being. We are afraid for out own well being when we go there. We are a very small religion compare to Christianity, Muslims etc and we were always the most hatred just for the fact that we are old traditional Jews. It always bothered us the fact that we are being killed just because we are Jews. In the 1400 we were killed by the Spanish later in Europe we were all dumped into ghettos later there was WW2 and so on. Now it's in Israel. So of course we care. It's not just the killing that bothers us. Its the reason behind it which we don't see with other tragedies.

I now expect fully that you acknowledge that you finally UNDERSTAND what's going on. And why a non Jwe has no reason to be upset by the way we discuss out tragedies.
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Arab terrorist stabs and kills 2 in Jerusalem's old city!
« Reply #177 on: October 08, 2015, 01:18:09 PM »
You still go on that you really have a point? How about replying here? You seemed to ignore it..
So you believe that after spending all this time on DDF I don't understand why you consider someone you never met your brother? You think I don't know Jews are being killed just because they are Jews? You think I don't know that many here have family's in Israel and that is another close connection?
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Re: Arab terrorist stabs and kills 2 in Jerusalem's old city!
« Reply #178 on: October 08, 2015, 01:20:08 PM »
@JJ - Let me get this straight. So I wasn't upset by the title and asked about it makes me a troll?
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Re: Arab terrorist stabs and kills 2 in Jerusalem's old city!
« Reply #179 on: October 08, 2015, 01:21:09 PM »
You still go on that you really have a point? How about replying here? You seemed to ignore it..

You missed what he said.

He's not saying he doesn't get it, he's saying the average joe doesn't get it.

@JJ - Let me get this straight. So I wasn't upset by the title and asked about it makes me a troll?
Nope, try again. One more guess. Maybe read what I wrote.
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