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Programs and Platforms That Stalk on Users
« on: October 28, 2015, 06:36:36 PM »
According to avromie7 (and downthread) Microsoft's (Windows 8 and up) flawed privacy policy allows them to stalk and track user information. The question is how that is in comparison to other companies and if there's anything to be done about that (by any company).

I started this thread because I haven't seen a dedicated thread for this topic. (Mods, feel free to delete)

Disclaimer: This thread may be dedicated to / frequented by paranoid users.  :)

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Re: Programs and Platforms That Stalk on Users
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2015, 08:32:39 PM »
According to avromie7 (and downthread) Microsoft's (Windows 8 and up) flawed privacy policy allows them to stalk and track user information. The question is how that is in comparison to other companies and if there's anything to be done about that (by any company).

I started this thread because I haven't seen a dedicated thread for this topic. (Mods, feel free to delete)

Disclaimer: This thread may be dedicated to / frequented by paranoid users.  :)

What is this thread for? Listing all the smartphone apps available on the market?

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Re: Programs and Platforms That Stalk on Users
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2015, 08:39:56 PM »
Those who have what to hide are afraid.

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Re: Programs and Platforms That Stalk on Users
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2015, 09:19:28 PM »
1) are they tracking me?
2) should I care?
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Re: Programs and Platforms That Stalk on Users
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2015, 09:21:49 PM »
Spotify gave themselves the right to your Facebook login
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Programs and Platforms That Stalk on Users
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2015, 11:00:34 PM »
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/21/spotify_worse_than_the_nsa/

from spotifys privacy policy
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If you connect to the Service using credentials from a Third Party Application (as defined in the Terms and Conditions of Use) (e.g., Facebook), you authorise us to collect your authentication information, such as your username and encrypted access credentials. We may also collect other information available on or through your Third Party Application account, including, for example, your name, profile picture, country, hometown, email address, date of birth, gender, friendsí names and profile pictures, and networks.
Am I still just paranoid?
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Programs and Platforms That Stalk on Users
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2015, 11:07:07 PM »
Do you use apple?... You are being tracked

Do you use android?... You are being tracked

Quick break your phone in half before they get you

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Re: Programs and Platforms That Stalk on Users
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2015, 12:03:19 PM »
Quick break your phone in half before they get you
or get a flip phone :D
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Re: Programs and Platforms That Stalk on Users
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2015, 12:20:31 PM »
or get a flip phone :D
And don't say you need a smartphone for business. I know a very well off man bli a"h that never owned a smartphone. And doesn't have a computer in his office (his secretary does thou)
I'm not who you think I am.

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Re: Programs and Platforms That Stalk on Users
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2015, 12:29:38 PM »
And don't say you need a smartphone for business. I know a very well off man bli a"h that never owned a smartphone. And doesn't have a computer in his office (his secretary does thou)
Did he start off well off, or did he work to get that way? :)
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Re: Programs and Platforms That Stalk on Users
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2015, 12:35:34 PM »
And don't say you need a smartphone for business. I know a very well off man bli a"h that never owned a smartphone. And doesn't have a computer in his office (his secretary does thou)
Obviously, if you know him and talk about him and he's worthwhile being mentioned than he must be an exception.

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Re: Programs and Platforms That Stalk on Users
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2015, 12:38:32 PM »
Did he start off well off, or did he work to get that way? :)
It's bs bc when these ppl started off there was no Internet. And by the time it was impossible to run a business without it, they were already paying ppl to have the Internet for them.

The grandson of a very big hair told me, my grandfather has a special fax machine that prints out all his incoming emails so that he doesn't have to have Internet. But his sons and secretaries all do have Internet so....

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Re: Programs and Platforms That Stalk on Users
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2015, 01:11:25 PM »
It's bs bc when these ppl started off there was no Internet. And by the time it was impossible to run a business without it, they were already paying ppl to have the Internet for them.

The grandson of a very big hair told me, my grandfather has a special fax machine that prints out all his incoming emails so that he doesn't have to have Internet. But his sons and secretaries all do have Internet so....
So is that an opportunity for his phone service provider to also be able to stalk on his emails?

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Re: Programs and Platforms That Stalk on Users
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2015, 01:34:07 PM »
It's bs bc when these ppl started off there was no Internet. And by the time it was impossible to run a business without it, they were already paying ppl to have the Internet for them.

The grandson of a very big hair told me, my grandfather has a special fax machine that prints out all his incoming emails so that he doesn't have to have Internet. But his sons and secretaries all do have Internet so....
exactly. Ok so i have an Amazon business. How do i go about running it without internet?

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Re: Programs and Platforms That Stalk on Users
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2015, 01:34:30 PM »
So is that an opportunity for his phone service provider to also be able to stalk on his emails?
Does it also print out Promotions and Updates? In colored ink?

Never mind - chances are he's not using gmail :)
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Re: Programs and Platforms That Stalk on Users
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2015, 01:39:51 PM »
Does it also print out Promotions and Updates? In colored ink?

Never mind - chances are he's not using gmail :)
Every deal from DDMS gets printed?   :)

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Re: Programs and Platforms That Stalk on Users
« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2015, 12:32:18 AM »
In case you were under the illusion that Google "doesn't really stalk", I just opened a website funded by google ads and found nearly every single item I have viewed on various sites in the last 2-3 days.

Q: Do you consider this
  • Scary
  • Annoying
  • Nerve wracking
  • All of the above and more...
A: 4

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Re: Programs and Platforms That Stalk on Users
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2015, 12:38:27 AM »
In case you were under the illusion that Google "doesn't really stalk", I just opened a website funded by google ads and found nearly every single item I have viewed on various sites in the last 2-3 days.

Q: Do you consider this
  • Scary
  • Annoying
  • Nerve wracking
  • All of the above and more...
A: 4
Where's the choice for none of the above?

Google is a business. They use data to make money. Sometimes they use it to find new ways to make your life better or easier. None of that should bother or concern you at all.

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Re: Programs and Platforms That Stalk on Users
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2015, 01:39:37 AM »
Where's the choice for none of the above?

Google is a business. They use data to make money. Sometimes they use it to find new ways to make your life better or easier. None of that should bother or concern you at all.
You may be right for scary. But it definitely is annoying... I mean, let me live my life without intrusions, no?

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Re: Programs and Platforms That Stalk on Users
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2015, 08:14:39 AM »
You may be right for scary. But it definitely is annoying... I mean, let me live my life without intrusions, no?
How is it intrusive? There would always be ads, they just use data to pick which ads. Better to reserve your ire for pop-ups, which actually are intrusive.