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Re: Re: The funny/strange/interesting/random pictures thread
« Reply #60 on: November 07, 2015, 07:52:00 PM »
Not intrinsically

Unless you specifically teach children to be accepting and respectful of all mankind then they are going to come away with a feeling of being higher up on the totem pole. Like I said, even if it's indirectly or in more subtle ways.   And it needs to be taught in practice and shown. Not just spoken about in theory.
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Re: Re: The funny/strange/interesting/random pictures thread
« Reply #61 on: November 07, 2015, 07:52:14 PM »
That was actually my first thought and what I was going to ask Shlock about where the school was.
That I'd assume this is an outcome of the general NY upbringing that most OOT'ers find offputting...

I grew up in the NY area but after having the Torah Taliban rebbis teaching my kids, we moved OOT and now send them to a community day school with orthodox, conservative and reform kids who all get along brilliantly.  It feels like God is smiling on them.

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Re: Re: The funny/strange/interesting/random pictures thread
« Reply #62 on: November 07, 2015, 07:52:28 PM »
We were taught that higher level meant more opportunities to connect to G-d. And this was open to anyone who wants to join the Jewish nation, or to any non-Jew who followed the Noahide laws. And this was a pretty right wing school in bp, btw
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Re: Re: The funny/strange/interesting/random pictures thread
« Reply #63 on: November 07, 2015, 07:52:39 PM »
Is this bad?
You don't think it is bad that someone isn't afforded the opportunity to learn about G-d?
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Re: Re: The funny/strange/interesting/random pictures thread
« Reply #64 on: November 07, 2015, 07:53:11 PM »
At what point will this thread get split off? Once Dan thinks of an appropriate title:D

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Re: Re: The funny/strange/interesting/random pictures thread
« Reply #65 on: November 07, 2015, 07:54:47 PM »
The most respectful religious kids I know grew up in more modern houses.  Respectful of all people, all religions. And they are very proud of their religion.
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Re: Re: The funny/strange/interesting/random pictures thread
« Reply #66 on: November 07, 2015, 07:55:06 PM »
Does a good Catholic believe that a Catholic and a Jew can attain the highest level?
Absolutely, even a Christian (I don't think you will get that part  :) ). You think I can get my answer now?
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Re: Re: The funny/strange/interesting/random pictures thread
« Reply #67 on: November 07, 2015, 07:56:10 PM »
At what point will this thread get split off? Once Dan thinks of an appropriate title:D
You have to wait until Friday.  :P
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Re: Re: The funny/strange/interesting/random pictures thread
« Reply #68 on: November 07, 2015, 07:56:30 PM »
Absolutely, even a Christian (I don't think you will get that part  :) ). You think I can get my answer now?

I'm not sure if the Christians would say the same about the Catholics. ;-)

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Re: Re: The funny/strange/interesting/random pictures thread
« Reply #69 on: November 07, 2015, 07:56:54 PM »
Absolutely, even a Christian (I don't think you will get that part  :) ). You think I can get my answer now?
Look a few posts up, I answered already
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Re: Re: The funny/strange/interesting/random pictures thread
« Reply #70 on: November 07, 2015, 08:00:08 PM »
I'm not sure if the Christians would say the same about the Catholics. ;-)
Of course they wouldn't because they are below Catholics in the pecking order. I have said this many times but this is like watching reruns.
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Re: Re: The funny/strange/interesting/random pictures thread
« Reply #71 on: November 07, 2015, 08:01:00 PM »

Translation for CM: This is a poster in an Orthodox school illustrating the pecking order of creations. On the top are Jews, then Gentiles, then animals, then vegetation, and then inanimate objects.  Sigh.
It's interesting to note that this original classification comes from the Kuzari with HOWEVER a different upper level: דומם, צומח, חי, מדבר, נביא.

It's relatively recent that it was changed to יהודי...

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Re: Re: The funny/strange/interesting/random pictures thread
« Reply #72 on: November 07, 2015, 08:01:08 PM »
The talmud states that a gentile who studies the torah i.e the 7 noahide laws, can reach a level as high as the kohen gadol - the high priest.
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Re: Re: The funny/strange/interesting/random pictures thread
« Reply #73 on: November 07, 2015, 08:01:33 PM »
I grew up in the NY area but after having the Torah Taliban rebbis teaching my kids, we moved OOT and now send them to a community day school with orthodox, conservative and reform kids who all get along brilliantly.  It feels like God is smiling on them.

:)

While I myself still believe there are Orthodox schools available that I think meet enough of my standards, I can appreciate wholeheartedly  the idea of putting your kid in a school where you feel like they are getting instilled with better values.
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Re: Re: The funny/strange/interesting/random pictures thread
« Reply #74 on: November 07, 2015, 08:05:03 PM »
I usually stay from these discussions, but I just wanted to add 2 points:
1)Is the poster anymore than a depiction of what is said from the Kuzari?
2) Is the poster about being better or different? Do you consider yourself "better" than a plant?