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הוי זהיר בגחלתם שלא תכוה, שנשיכתן נשיכת שועל ועקיצתן עקיצת עקרב, ולחישתן לחישת שרף, וכל דבריהם כגחלי אש

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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #45 on: November 09, 2015, 09:23:29 AM »
but she didnt get a heter from IBD or something. she got a heter from one of the leading poskim in america
Who also happens to be her neighbor
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #46 on: November 09, 2015, 09:23:56 AM »
I'm not so sure about that. Although RSK is more nationally acclaimed, in this inyan RNG is known to being the expert.

Yeah, but not someone most poskim will rely on for such a complex case. it's above his pay grade.

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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #47 on: November 09, 2015, 09:24:07 AM »
A friend posted this on Facebook. I thought it was apt.

Thankfully there are loopholes available to solve pressing issues in halacha.
Can't charge interest? Heter Iska.
Can't work the land on Shmita? Heter Mechira.
Can't carry on shabbos? Eiruv Chatzeiros.
Can't walk far on Shabbat? Eruv Tchumin.
Can't enforce a loan after Shmita? Pruzbol.
Can't own chametz on pesach? Mechirat Chametz (with a bonus Bitul),
Can't cook on Yom Tov for Shabbat? Eruv Tavshilin.
Promised to do something? Hatarat Nedarim.
First born that has to fast on erev pesach? Siyum.
Want to eat meat during the 9 days? Siyum.
A woman wont agree to divorce her husband? Heter Meya Rabonim.
A man wont give his wife a get? Sorry, there's nothing we can do. Halacha is Halacha.

I have some more.

Can't eat meat? Get it shechted
Can't have relations with a random woman (or vise versa)? get married
Cant have relations with your spouse? she should go to the mikva
Can't eat the fruit in E"Y? take off trumos and maasros
Can't cut your beard? use a scissors


Can't go through the intersection? Wait for a green light
Can't get narcotic pain killers? get a prescription
Can't drive a car? get a license

So many loopholes.

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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #48 on: November 09, 2015, 09:25:47 AM »
And who is the "seller"?
1. The seller doesn't have a claim of mekach taos for a defect in the object of the sale.

2. The husband is not the object of the sale.
If you don't care why would you comment?
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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #49 on: November 09, 2015, 09:25:48 AM »
Who also happens to be her neighbor
shes from memphis?

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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #50 on: November 09, 2015, 09:26:40 AM »
I have some more.

Can't eat meat? Get it shechted
Can't have relations with a random woman (or vise versa)? get married
Cant have relations with your spouse? she should go to the mikva
Can't eat the fruit in E"Y? take off trumos and maasros
Can't cut your beard? use a scissors


Can't go through the intersection? Wait for a green light
Can't get narcotic pain killers? get a prescription
Can't drive a car? get a license

So many loopholes.

lol

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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #51 on: November 09, 2015, 09:31:22 AM »
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #52 on: November 09, 2015, 09:32:51 AM »
no she's from phily
right...so since when does rav nota live in philly?

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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #53 on: November 09, 2015, 09:33:30 AM »
right...so since when does rav nota live in philly?
The source behind his psak is in philly
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #54 on: November 09, 2015, 09:34:28 AM »
right...so since when does rav nota live in philly?
No jurisdiction?
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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #55 on: November 09, 2015, 09:36:21 AM »
No jurisdiction?
havent been following the back and forth...
The source behind his psak is in philly
so i stand corrected, as i thought it was based on rav nota
in any event, are you really implying that rav shmuel would issue a psak as weighty and as public as this simply bc he knows her personally?

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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #56 on: November 09, 2015, 09:37:30 AM »
havent been following the back and forth...so i stand corrected, as i thought it was based on rav nota
in any event, are you really implying that rav shmuel would issue a psak as weighty and as public as this simply bc he knows her personally?
RNG based his psak off of RSK
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #57 on: November 09, 2015, 09:38:11 AM »
RNG based his psak off of RSK
so i got that the first time you said that
The source behind his psak is in philly
but how do you explain this statement of yours
Who also happens to be her neighbor

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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #58 on: November 09, 2015, 09:39:37 AM »
so i got that the first time you said thatbut how do you explain this statement of yours
You are correct that the one who actually gave the heter is not her neighbor but all the weight of the psak comes from her neighbor
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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #59 on: November 09, 2015, 09:40:37 AM »
RNG based his psak off of RSK
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