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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #640 on: December 07, 2015, 01:46:11 PM »
The question is whether and how the moetzes will respond.
On one hand, מדשתקו רבנן ש"מ דניחא ליה (ח"ו
On the other hand, will R Shmuel sign on? Abstain?

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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #641 on: December 07, 2015, 03:59:33 PM »

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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #642 on: December 07, 2015, 04:06:05 PM »


Anyone up for going all "shimon and levi" on Philly?

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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #643 on: December 07, 2015, 04:10:32 PM »
Anyone up for going all "shimon and levi" on Philly?
they already all hav milah..... So whats the plan?

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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #644 on: December 07, 2015, 04:12:33 PM »


The longer NG is in hiding and refuses to retract, the harsher the letters are getting. I'm assuming a cherem is not far.
He is being condemned by renowned poskim from ALL stripes.

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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #645 on: December 07, 2015, 04:35:43 PM »
4344 pags ... this thread is popping off with no rest... I am happy i dont know what you are talking about:)

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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #646 on: December 07, 2015, 05:13:02 PM »
Anyone up for going all "shimon and levi" on Philly?
Per this the couple is getting chenek..
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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #647 on: December 07, 2015, 05:23:30 PM »
r nota greenberg also happens to be a ' reknowned posek "
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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #648 on: December 07, 2015, 06:21:23 PM »
r nota greenberg also happens to be a ' reknowned posek "
Could be. But personally I never heard of him until now. I had heard lots about R Efrayim Greenblatt though.

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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #649 on: December 07, 2015, 06:25:55 PM »
Could be. But personally I never heard of him until now. I had heard lots about R Efrayim Greenblatt though.

In the realm of gittin, it would be impossible not to have heard of him.  He is clearly the foremost expert on gittin in the U.S.

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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #650 on: December 07, 2015, 06:26:46 PM »
R' Nota is THE expert in regards to gittin. R' Ephraim was known more for his all around halacha knowledge.
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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #651 on: December 07, 2015, 06:32:22 PM »
The longer NG is in hiding and refuses to retract, the harsher the letters are getting. I'm assuming a cherem is not far.
He is being condemned by renowned poskim from ALL stripes.

NG? NG:o :o

Tell me that's a typo and you didn't deliberately refer to Rav Nota as you would a teammate on a baseball field.
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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #652 on: December 07, 2015, 06:34:52 PM »
NG? NG:o :o

Tell me that's a typo and you didn't deliberately refer to Rav Nota as you would a teammate on a baseball field.
Thank you
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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #653 on: December 07, 2015, 06:36:17 PM »
For the moment, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #654 on: December 07, 2015, 07:05:08 PM »
In the realm of gittin, it would be impossible not to have heard of him.  He is clearly the foremost expert on gittin in the U.S.

R' Nota is THE expert in regards to gittin. R' Ephraim was known more for his all around halacha knowledge.

NG? NG:o :o

Tell me that's a typo and you didn't deliberately refer to Rav Nota as you would a teammate on a baseball field.

Thank you
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For the moment, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt.
At least according to the signers on the poster he has been disqualified from dealing with gittin. So according to them at least, "so much for all the expertise."
Would he still retain the title "rav" according to them?

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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #655 on: December 07, 2015, 07:13:40 PM »
For the moment, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt.
The question is until when does Rabbi's Greenblatt & Kaminetsky get the benefit of the doubt? If they have done nothing wrong with nothing to hide why has there been no explanation?

They don't owe me or you anything as has been mentioned they are much bigger than any of us here are - but there have been over a dozen letters from the biggest Rabonim & Poskim coming out against what has been done and yet not a word to defend it?

So I ask you until when do they get the benefit of the doubt? Would it be ok with you if no explanation is ever given?

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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #656 on: December 07, 2015, 07:19:26 PM »
NG? NG:o :o

Tell me that's a typo and you didn't deliberately refer to Rav Nota as you would a teammate on a baseball field.
couldnt have said it better.... but than again in the fire of so called kanaus  people thin of themselves as a posek acron and everyone else at best is a Am Haaretz  including gedolei poskim
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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #657 on: December 07, 2015, 07:22:53 PM »
In the realm of gittin, it would be impossible not to have heard of him.  He is clearly the foremost expert on gittin in the U.S.
The yeshivishe velt used him for gittin or gittin related sheilos?

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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #658 on: December 07, 2015, 07:25:31 PM »
At least according to the signers on the poster he has been disqualified from dealing with gittin. So according to them at least, "so much for all the expertise."
Would he still retain the title "rav" according to them?
and yet none of the signers( who many of them im assumingy ou have never either heard of but are conveniently on the "right side" ) referred to him as NG ..... if you want to  be the fist than all i can say is youre suffering from a overdose of self esteem and you might want to ask mechila brabim ... talking about rabbis like that can only cause you problems
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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #659 on: December 07, 2015, 07:25:46 PM »
The yeshivishe velt used him for gittin or gittin related sheilos?

Yes. As the foremost expert.