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Re: Dan's cancelled London trip
« Reply #200 on: November 18, 2015, 04:39:11 PM »
Don't get it - how can they say that you made a decision?

AA canceled your flight and offered you another flight that night in Economy but you can only fly Business. BA wasn't an option because early morning and you want to fly with AA only. leaving Thursday is not an option since you can only leave on Wednesdays...

Good point, perhaps I wasn't clear enough in my argument.
Just left her a message stressing that and that I'd rather get this resolved with AA rather than ask the DoT their opinion on the matter.
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Re: Dan's cancelled London trip
« Reply #201 on: November 18, 2015, 04:43:10 PM »
Thanks. Agree.
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Re: Dan's cancelled London trip
« Reply #202 on: November 18, 2015, 04:43:24 PM »
Good point, perhaps I wasn't clear enough in my argument.
Just left her a message stressing that and that I'd rather get this resolved with AA rather than ask the DoT their opinion on the matter.
In your defense, you can't bold parts of a phone convo :P

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Re: Dan's cancelled London trip
« Reply #203 on: November 18, 2015, 04:47:29 PM »
In your defense, you can't bold parts of a phone convo :P

THAT'S WHY I THINK CAPS ARE MORE APPROPRIATE!!!

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Re: Dan's cancelled London trip
« Reply #204 on: November 18, 2015, 05:06:47 PM »
Dan, are you speaking with a designated person who is handling your case or regular CUS?

This is ridiculous! In ANY other industry when such story would happen they would run after the client to make the client happy. This is the only industry where customer service will alway act like a$$ h0&e$ its mind boggling, and for that reason I'm tricking the airlines every day, when anyone tells me that its Geneiveh, my answer is always that with airlines there is the Klal in place "Haguynev Min Hganiv Puter"   #revenge

These stories make me sick. I just can't understand how human being can act like umm I wrote above...
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Re: Dan's cancelled London trip
« Reply #205 on: November 18, 2015, 05:10:46 PM »
I'm dealing with exec CS and have the agent's direct line.
Not that she's been much help so far.
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Re: Dan's cancelled London trip
« Reply #206 on: November 18, 2015, 05:13:24 PM »


"Haguynev Min Hganiv Puter"   

Just to take this a little off topic, figured I'd mention that it's patur avul assur as well as only patur from keifel and not from the actual keren 

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Re: Dan's cancelled London trip
« Reply #207 on: November 18, 2015, 05:28:39 PM »
I'm dealing with exec CS and have the agent's direct line.
Not that she's been much help so far.

Do you tell these people who you are?

Like "look at my web post that was read by thousands and you will understand my story clearer"

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Re: Dan's cancelled London trip
« Reply #208 on: November 18, 2015, 05:30:39 PM »
Do you tell these people who you are?

Like "look at my web post that was read by thousands and you will understand my story clearer"
She read it.
They couldn't care less who I am.
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Re: Dan's cancelled London trip
« Reply #209 on: November 18, 2015, 05:33:48 PM »
Moral of the story: after a rep says they can't do something, and you force them to do it. You will get screwed.
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Re: Dan's cancelled London trip
« Reply #210 on: November 18, 2015, 05:35:19 PM »
Moral of the story: after a rep says they can't do something, and you force them to do it. You will get screwed.
You think they did it to spite him?  :o

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Re: Dan's cancelled London trip
« Reply #211 on: November 18, 2015, 05:47:18 PM »

Just to take this a little off topic, figured I'd mention that it's patur avul assur as well as only patur from keifel and not from the actual keren 
But stealing from a *** is only assur because of chilul hashem. And no keren either. If in a case there is no chilul hashem its not assur...
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Re: Dan's cancelled London trip
« Reply #212 on: November 18, 2015, 06:02:44 PM »
Moral of the story: after a rep says they can't do something, and you force them to do it. You will get screwed.

Second moral, record it for when they cave in and say yes.

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Re: Dan's cancelled London trip
« Reply #213 on: November 18, 2015, 06:03:00 PM »

I'm dealing with exec CS and have the agent's direct line.
Not that she's been much help so far.

Any chance we could get some voice recording going? Would love to hear parts of this conversation.
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Re: Dan's cancelled London trip
« Reply #214 on: November 18, 2015, 06:07:19 PM »
EU 261 doesn't help here?

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Re: Dan's cancelled London trip
« Reply #215 on: November 18, 2015, 06:10:28 PM »
EU 261 doesn't help here?
someone once told me that it does not apply if its a non european airline. Not sure if its true and not sure if the fact that this was a BA code share makes a difference.
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Re: Dan's cancelled London trip
« Reply #216 on: November 18, 2015, 06:11:13 PM »
someone once told me that it does not apply if its a non european airline. Not sure if its true and not sure if the fact that this was a BA code share makes a difference.
Does apply to non EU of flight is to/from EU

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Re: Dan's cancelled London trip
« Reply #217 on: November 18, 2015, 06:17:51 PM »
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Re: Dan's cancelled London trip
« Reply #218 on: November 18, 2015, 07:03:53 PM »
Does apply to non EU of flight is to/from EU
You're mixing up with Israeli law. I think with Israeli law you're right but not with EU.

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Re: Dan's cancelled London trip
« Reply #219 on: November 18, 2015, 07:05:53 PM »
Shame that the DoT is afraid from the airline lobbyists to impose such laws. They only have bumping laws.
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