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Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?

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Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
« on: November 17, 2015, 02:45:35 AM »
I think NOT. It's an ideology, and an ideology is something you cannot kill.

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Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2015, 03:30:54 AM »
I think NOT. It's an ideology, and an ideology is something you cannot kill.

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I think it can though my plan wouldn't happen in a million years

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Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2015, 04:37:44 AM »
I think NOT. It's an ideology, and an ideology is something you cannot kill.

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Why does defeating ISIS mean that you have to kill the ideology? That's two different things 

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Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2015, 05:24:46 AM »
Nuke Iraq and Syria.

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Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2015, 07:08:12 AM »
Why does defeating ISIS mean that you have to kill the ideology? That's two different things
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The Nazis were defeated though their ideology lives on.
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Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2015, 07:37:48 AM »
If you can make it you can break it.

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Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2015, 08:11:14 AM »
I think it can though my plan wouldn't happen in a million years
Which is?
Nuke Iraq and Syria.
Seriously?
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2015, 08:24:09 AM »
Go read David Brooks op ed today in the Times.

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Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2015, 01:15:50 PM »
Why does defeating ISIS mean that you have to kill the ideology? That's two different things
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The Nazis were defeated though their ideology lives on.
The Nazi ideology that lives on today means hardly anything because in order for it to be effective it has to be in coordination with too many; whereas the ISIS ideology can be followed by loners and carry out attacks on their own in the most remote parts of the globe.
Actually, that itself is their ideology - to fight for sharia/shia wherever, whenever and in whatever circumstances, whether you're alone or with others.

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Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2015, 01:19:12 PM »
The Nazi ideology that lives on today means hardly anything because in order for it to be effective it has to be in coordination with too many; whereas the ISIS ideology can be followed by loners and carry out attacks on their own in the most remote parts of the globe.
Actually, that itself is their ideology - to fight for sharia/shia wherever, whenever and in whatever circumstances, whether you're alone or with others.
ISIS means radical Islam or a caliphate?

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Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2015, 01:24:37 PM »
ISIS means radical Islam or a caliphate?
What's wrong with Caliphate so long it is not radical?

Or what's wrong with Islam so long it is not radical?

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Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2015, 01:40:04 PM »
Go read David Brooks op ed today in the Times.

@DD we read the Journal not the times

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Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2015, 01:43:30 PM »
@DD we read the Journal DDF not the times
FTFY  ;)

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Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2015, 01:50:52 PM »
What's wrong with Caliphate so long it is not radical?

Or what's wrong with Islam so long it is not radical?


The Nazi ideology that lives on today means hardly anything because in order for it to be effective it has to be in coordination with too many; whereas the ISIS ideology can be followed by loners and carry out attacks on their own in the most remote parts of the globe.

If ISIS means a caliphate, that's not something that can be carried out by loners.

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Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2015, 01:57:45 PM »

If ISIS means a caliphate, that's not something that can be carried out by loners.
-1 if the caliphate/caliph orders it to be that way. This is especially the case with these self-declared leaders.

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Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2015, 02:05:49 PM »
-1 if the caliphate/caliph orders it to be that way. This is especially the case with these self-declared leaders.
The discussion was whether an ideology can continue to thrive once its body has been destroyed. While loners can fight for a caliphate without being in the front lines of the of the organization, a caliphate is only while there is an actual leader, as opposed to an Aryan ideology for example

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Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2015, 10:37:52 AM »
@KolHaolam: RUSSIA: Putin: "Forgiving terrorists is up to God, to send them to him is up to me." He's scheduled to meet w/ Netanyahu in Paris in 10 days

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Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2015, 10:39:52 AM »
@KolHaolam: RUSSIA: Putin: "Forgiving terrorists is up to God, to send them to him is up to me." He's scheduled to meet w/ Netanyahu in Paris in 10 days

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Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2015, 10:47:59 AM »
Gotta love him. I'd vote for him for POTUS.
If you don't care why would you comment?
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Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2015, 01:44:18 PM »
Gotta love him. I'd vote for him for POTUS.
  ??? You may as well stay with Obama...   ::)