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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #1080 on: April 11, 2016, 09:51:51 PM »
The trans suicide rate is 41%. FORTY ONE PERCENT.
It's a really sad mental illness.
The way society decided to deal with it is so misguided.
It's really sad.

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #1081 on: April 11, 2016, 09:53:39 PM »
The trans suicide rate is 41%.

And the sky is blue

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #1082 on: April 11, 2016, 09:54:03 PM »
I dont have an issue with trans people sharing bathrooms with my duaghter/wife. My issue is with the non trans perv that'll claim he is a woman to gain access.
Is there any protocol for determining someone's gender and if they are indeed trans ?

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #1083 on: April 11, 2016, 09:54:39 PM »
And the sky is blue
great answer.

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #1084 on: April 11, 2016, 09:55:51 PM »
I dont have an issue with trans people sharing bathrooms with my duaghter/wife. My issue is with the non trans perv that'll claim he is a women to gain access.
Is there any protocol for determining someone's gender and if they are indeed trans ?

+1

Different states have different rules. Some are very restrictive, others are less so.

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #1085 on: April 11, 2016, 09:56:35 PM »
The trans suicide rate is 41%. FORTY ONE PERCENT.
It's a really sad mental illness.
The way society decided to deal with it is so misguided.
It's really sad.

I agree with this. Society needs to be more accepting.

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #1086 on: April 11, 2016, 10:00:50 PM »
I agree with this. Society needs to be more accepting.
Remind me in 10 years when society gets more accepting to show you the studies that show that the rate went UP, because society allowed these ill people to mutilate their bodies, and further confused these people by accepting them as what their not.

People were much more persecuted previously in history. In Auchwitz the suicide rate wasn't 41%. The suicide rate is proof that trans is a mental illness.

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #1087 on: April 11, 2016, 10:02:00 PM »
+1

Different states have different rules. Some are very restrictive, others are less so.
What are some of these rules other than "gender on your birth certificate"?

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #1088 on: April 11, 2016, 10:02:10 PM »
I agree with this. Society needs to be more accepting.

You're saying trans people in san Francisco or west Hollywood don't have a much-higher-than-average suicide rate?

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GOP Master thread
« Reply #1089 on: April 11, 2016, 10:02:35 PM »
You're saying trans people in san Francisco or west Hollywood don't have a much-higher-than-average suicide rate?

3x higher. No idea about wh or sf

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #1090 on: April 11, 2016, 10:06:47 PM »
What are some of these rules other than "gender on your birth certificate"?

Gender on ID

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #1091 on: April 11, 2016, 10:07:02 PM »
Well if you're going to make a claim that society's lack of acceptance is the cause, then you should probably look at places where they're very much accepted, and see if they still have a big problem with suicide. You know, instead of blindly following people with an agenda.

You don't seem so well read on the topic. Just well read on one side of the topic.

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #1092 on: April 11, 2016, 10:09:47 PM »
Gender on ID
I assume that you can change the gender on your id, do you know what the protocol is for that ?

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #1093 on: April 11, 2016, 10:10:20 PM »
I assume that you can change the gender on your id, do you know what the protocol is for that ?

Depends on state, can require surgery or psych evaluation

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #1094 on: April 11, 2016, 10:13:58 PM »
Depends on state, can require surgery or psych evaluation
Thats fair enough.

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #1095 on: April 11, 2016, 10:16:26 PM »
Thats fair enough.

A patient can say whatever they want on a psych evaluation.

Which is not beneath a predator to do.

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #1096 on: April 11, 2016, 10:21:58 PM »
wow didnt know that till now, did you realize that ted cruz is only 200 delegates behind trump? a week ago he was 300 behind, he is clearly making big progress!

#NEVERTRUMP NO WAY!
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Do u have any different idea for a signature?

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #1097 on: April 11, 2016, 10:22:49 PM »
Well if you're going to make a claim that society's lack of acceptance is the cause, then you should probably look at places where they're very much accepted, and see if they still have a big problem with suicide. You know, instead of blindly following people with an agenda.

You don't seem so well read on the topic. Just well read on one side of the topic.
i find it mindboggling that anyone can say with a straight face that the TG suicide rate is the result of anything but the increased bullying these individuals face. This is not bind following, it's common sense. But to satisfy my curiosity I took a look, here's what I found:
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A brand new study from Canada confirms this effect. There, the suicide attempt rate for transgender people was similar to what other studies have found: about 18 times higher than the general population. But the study found that some factors greatly reduced the attempt rate. For example, when transgender people had affirming parents, the rate dropped by 57 percent. Access to legal documentation consistent with their gender identity dropped rates by 44 percent. Trans people who experienced low levels of anti-trans hate were 66 percent less likely to attempt suicide. And perhaps most importantly, the further along individuals were in their transitions i.e. the closer they were to having a body and outward identity that matched their internal gender identity the less likely they were to attempt suicide.

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http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2015/06/22/3672506/transgender-suicide-rates/



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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #1098 on: April 11, 2016, 10:23:27 PM »
Remind me in 10 years when society gets more accepting to show you the studies that show that the rate went UP, because society allowed these ill people to mutilate their bodies, and further confused these people by accepting them as what their not.

People were much more persecuted previously in history. In Auchwitz the suicide rate wasn't 41%. The suicide rate is proof that trans is a mental illness.

A.  It's attempted suicide rate.
B.  Do you know what the attempted suicide rate was in Auchwitz? 
C.  Your conclusion is preposterous, and skipped many steps.

PS:  Studies have shown that Holocaust Survivors are 3 times more likely to attempted suicide.  Not sure how it's relevant, but figured you should know.

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #1099 on: April 11, 2016, 10:24:35 PM »
A patient can say whatever they want on a psych evaluation.

Which is not beneath a predator to do.
I guess it can be manipulated. Honestly, I'm just trying to get clarity as I cant trust any info I get from the media, pro or con. They make it sound that if transgenders were allowed in bathrooms of their new gender then every peeping tom would be preying on our women.