GOP Master thread

[ExGingi]

Didn't he advocate for investing in our infrastructure do the disdain of Rs.

We all know that we can't believe one word any politician says.

It's the actions (or lack thereof) that count. BO took lots of actions to "the disdain of Rs" which is why I specifically mentioned auto unions, but FAILED to act on what could have really made a positive difference.

[Sport]

We all know that we can't believe one word any politician says.

It's the actions (or lack thereof) that count. BO took lots of actions to "the disdain of Rs" which is why I specifically mentioned auto unions, but FAILED to act on what could have really made a positive difference.

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[aygart]

[JTZ]

I am glad you didn't use a bias source. 

[Sport]

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[aygart]

I am glad you didn't use a bias source. 

The numbers are the numbers. It is very interesting how well the name is working.

[Aaaron]

The numbers are the numbers. It is very interesting how well the name is working.

Doesn't it also align with him becoming the presumptive nominee?  I would think that's more the reason than name-calling.

[aygart]

Doesn't it also align with him becoming the presumptive nominee?  I would think that's more the reason than name-calling.

I was thinking that as well, but the indiana primary was May 3 and it was flat for a hile after that. Also, the drop for Hillary is much more pronounced than the rise for Trump.

There are other possible factors as well including the tension with Bernie. The question is which is the cause and which is the effect.

[aygart]

Bush left the economy in a disaster and BO turned it around. That is what I mean by I can only go by what happened.

We have gone through this before and IIRC we mostly agreed. I do not think Bush was as great as some Rs have made him nor BO as bad as some Rs have made him.

[skyguy918]

The numbers are the numbers. It is very interesting how well the name is working.

Are they though? No real explanation of what's represented or sourcing there, so no way of knowing. Hard to tell what it even means at all. I see sections where they both move up and down in lockstep, and others with fully inverse movements. That makes no sense.

[EJB]

Doesn't it also align with him becoming the presumptive nominee?  I would think that's more the reason than name-calling.

+1. That and the republican base warming up to him as their nominee, while the democrats continue to slug it out.

[aygart]

Are they though? No real explanation of what's represented or sourcing there, so no way of knowing. Hard to tell what it even means at all. I see sections where they both move up and down in lockstep, and others with fully inverse movements. That makes no sense.

The top comes straight from Real Clear Politics. It makes plenty of sense that they do not move in tandem. They do not add up to 100% due to the nevertrump/neverhillary/votemickeymouse crowd which also varies.

+1. That and the republican base warming up to him as their nominee, while the democrats continue to slug it out.

Note how Trump went up by only 4 points from 39% to 43% while Hillary dropped double that.

[EJB]

The top comes straight from Real Clear Politics. It makes plenty of sense that they do not move in tandem. They do not add up to 100% due to the nevertrump/neverhillary/votemickeymouse crowd which also varies.
Note how Trump went up by only 4 points from 39% to 43% while Hillary dropped double that.

Most of the movement has come from independents, if you look at the polls. Hillary dominated them until this past month. Both candidates have around 80% of their party's support.

[aygart]

Most of the movement has come from independents, if you look at the polls. Hillary dominated them until this past month. Both candidates have around 80% of their party's support.

That is exactly my point. It is not due to the R lining up.

[EJB]

That is exactly my point. It is not due to the R lining up.

They aren't mutually exclusive. The public currently views the democrats as in disarray. Additionally, Hillary is being attacked on two sides and cannot fully pivot to the general election to appeal to independents until Sanders backs down. The republicans unifying behind trump helped him significantly, but the problem is I can't imagine the democrats won't soon unify behind Clinton, so that may take some steam off of Trump's momentum.

[aygart]

They aren't mutually exclusive. The public currently views the democrats as in disarray. Additionally, Hillary is being attacked on two sides and cannot fully pivot to the general election to appeal to independents until Sanders backs down. The republicans unifying behind trump helped him significantly, but the problem is I can't imagine the democrats won't soon unify behind Clinton, so that may take some steam off of Trump's momentum.

They are already unified behind her "if she is the nominee" The neverhillary is not much among Ds.  Again, the big difference is not Trump gains but Hillary losses.

[JTZ]

Right now a lot of Sanders supporters say they will vote for Trump over HRC. Once Sanders is out of the way they will support HRC.

[EJB]

They are already unified behind her "if she is the nominee" The neverhillary is not much among Ds.  Again, the big difference is not Trump gains but Hillary losses.

Again, I'm talking about independent support. What the independents see is a candidate that is being attacked from the left and from the right. Additionally, they see her taking positions that are better suited for a primary candidate and not a general election candidate, while Trump has for the past month "changed his mind"on several key issues.

[EJB]

Right now a lot of Sanders supporters say they will vote for Trump over HRC. Once Sanders is out of the way they will support HRC.

This too, see the latest ABC poll. Trump gained tremendously in the youngest age group over the past month. Time will tell if this will continue.

[aygart]

Time will tell if this will continue.

that we can say with near certainty