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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #820 on: March 28, 2016, 08:27:46 PM »
Agree.
But not sure if you can invalidate geirus based on that..
why ever not???  :o

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #821 on: March 28, 2016, 08:31:15 PM »
why ever not???  :o

Invalidate Geirus based on levush??  :o

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GOP Master thread
« Reply #822 on: March 28, 2016, 08:31:55 PM »
why ever not???  :o
If you would bother having a look at hilchos geirus in שו״ע you would see that בדיעבד it's not so pashut

(Even if we assume that immodest dress is a דאורייתא or that a דרבנן would also pose a problem בדיעבד)

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #823 on: March 28, 2016, 08:50:26 PM »
and where do u get that she doesn't/didn't intend to keep all 613 ?
I'm willing to bet she never brought a מנחת מרחשת... :P

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #824 on: March 28, 2016, 08:55:55 PM »
she sure is! halachaclly speaking if a jew doesn't keep one of the 613 mitzvos they are still jewish, but a geir/giyores that does not have in mind to keep every single one of the 613 mitzvos, that renders the geirus invalid. so she is therefore not jewish.

I don't want to be rude, but this is one of those times when a person should admit the limitations in their own knowledge.
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GOP Master thread
« Reply #825 on: March 28, 2016, 09:25:46 PM »
If you would bother having a look at hilchos geirus in שו״ע you would see that בדיעבד it's not so pashut

(Even if we assume that immodest dress is a דאורייתא or that a דרבנן would also pose a problem בדיעבד)
Actually Rav Moshe specifically deals with this exact question of a woman who is being megayer (לשם אישות) and is not planning on dressing according to Halacha if בדיעבד her geirus is valid-and he concludes that it probably is valid (אגר״מ יו״ד ח״ג סי׳ קו׳)

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #826 on: March 28, 2016, 09:42:50 PM »
Actually Rav Moshe specifically deals with this exact question of a woman who is being megayer (לשם אישות) and is not planning on dressing according to Halacha if בדיעבד her geirus is valid-and he concludes that it probably is valid (אגר״מ יו״ד ח״ג סי׳ קו׳)

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #827 on: March 28, 2016, 10:02:00 PM »
I don't think the status of Ivanka's geirus is the topic of this thread. Go ahead and have the conversation in some halacha thread.
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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #828 on: March 28, 2016, 10:05:07 PM »


I don't think the status of Ivanka's geirus is the topic of this thread. Go ahead and have the conversation in some comic thread.
FTFY


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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #829 on: March 28, 2016, 10:18:12 PM »
FTFY


Well, the whole GOP field is one giant comic playground, so actually I think it probably does belong right here.  :)

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #830 on: March 28, 2016, 10:20:29 PM »

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GOP Master thread
« Reply #831 on: March 28, 2016, 10:26:18 PM »
I don't think the status of Ivanka's geirus is the topic of this thread. Go ahead and have the conversation in some halacha thread.
Well it's relevant to us as Jewish voters if we should/shouldn't vote for a candidate that has a Jewish daughter..
On second thought if she was megayer, she's not really considered to be his daughter anymore, which raises the question- was her geirus valid?

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #833 on: March 28, 2016, 10:46:08 PM »
http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/198879/ivanka-trump-and-double-standards-for-jewish-converts
If she posts about eating non kosher food that would place her acceptance of mitzvos under question.
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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #834 on: March 28, 2016, 10:54:35 PM »
You guys are cracking me up, she's a damn goy, vaytur!

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GOP Master thread
« Reply #835 on: March 28, 2016, 11:02:38 PM »
You guys are cracking me up, she's a damn goy, vaytur!
Be careful what you say- if she is Jewish- which she may very well be- you are getting involved in מוציא שם רע and being מוציא לעז on her children (including Theodore James ;) )
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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #836 on: March 28, 2016, 11:06:07 PM »
Be careful what you say- if she is Jewish- which she may very well be- you may be getting involved in  מוציא שם רע, and are being מוציא לעז on her children (including Theodore James :)
Not sure if you're being serious or not..

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #837 on: March 28, 2016, 11:26:09 PM »
Actually Rav Moshe specifically deals with this exact question of a woman who is being megayer (לשם אישות) and is not planning on dressing according to Halacha if בדיעבד her geirus is valid-and he concludes that it probably is valid (אגר״מ יו״ד ח״ג סי׳ קו׳)
just checked it, sounds like your right  :-X

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #838 on: March 28, 2016, 11:30:05 PM »
just checked it, sounds like your right  :-X
Thanks for your הסכמה
   

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #839 on: March 28, 2016, 11:31:56 PM »
First the Pope saying Donald is not a Christian and now DDF saying Ivanka is not a Jew.

Seriously, everyone should worry about their own ruchnius.
If you don't care why would you comment?
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