Author Topic: Playgroup Prices (Read 6654 times)

JoeyShmoe · « **Reply #20 on:** November 18, 2015, 05:13:15 PM »

Quote from: churnbabychurn on November 18, 2015, 04:30:53 PM

It's not easy work. But it pays well OTB..

It helps that she's currently unemployed and loves to work with kids

grodnoking · « **Reply #21 on:** November 18, 2015, 05:51:06 PM »

Quote from: JoeyShmoe on November 18, 2015, 04:09:40 PM

I told my wife that she should open a playgroup next year, she loves working with kids and as far as I can tell it's a money making machine

It very well can be if it is in your house

Quote from: churnbabychurn on November 18, 2015, 04:30:53 PM

It's not easy work. But it pays well OTB..

And you can list it as a school by taxes, even though you're not registered. (The accountant said if one day someone manages to realize this discrepancy, you wont get in trouble. Besides for needing to shut down obviously. )

JoeyShmoe · « **Reply #22 on:** November 18, 2015, 05:55:30 PM »

Quote from: grodnoking on November 18, 2015, 05:51:06 PM

And you can list it as a school by taxes, even though you're not registered. (The accountant said if one day someone manages to realize this discrepancy, you wont get in trouble. Besides for needing to shut down obviously. )

If I list the income as a school I'm assuming that I'd pay taxes, in that case why shouldn't we register it, in which case we wouldn't be shut down

Red · « **Reply #23 on:** November 18, 2015, 05:57:32 PM »

520 shekel a month - 8:30-1:10 no food

Work-for-ur-muny · « **Reply #24 on:** November 18, 2015, 06:05:15 PM »

Quote from: JoeyShmoe on November 18, 2015, 04:09:40 PM

I told my wife that she should open a playgroup next year, she loves working with kids and as far as I can tell it's a money making machine

Special price for DDFers.

I've been paying $500 10-2:45 including food (I'm not sure if transportation was included or if I payed separately for that).

JoeyShmoe · « **Reply #25 on:** November 18, 2015, 06:06:38 PM »

Quote from: Work-for-ur-muny on November 18, 2015, 06:05:15 PM

Special price for DDFers.

I've been paying $500 10-2:45 including food (I'm not sure if transportation was included or if I payed separately for that).

What are they feeding your kid?!?!?

Work-for-ur-muny · « **Reply #26 on:** November 18, 2015, 06:11:48 PM »

Quote from: JoeyShmoe on November 18, 2015, 06:06:38 PM

What are they feeding your kid?!?!?

Actually very well fed. I got a daily log of EXACTLY what my kid ate that day and how much; as well as how long he slept during rest time etc.

JoeyShmoe · « **Reply #27 on:** November 18, 2015, 06:13:17 PM »

Quote from: Work-for-ur-muny on November 18, 2015, 06:11:48 PM

Actually very well fed. I got a daily log of EXACTLY what my kid ate that day and how much; as well as how long he slept during rest time etc.

And you feel that the $500 is justified with that (seriously want to understand, not provoke C"V)

Work-for-ur-muny · « **Reply #28 on:** November 18, 2015, 06:14:40 PM »

Quote from: JoeyShmoe on November 18, 2015, 06:13:17 PM

And you feel that the $500 is justified with that (seriously want to understand, not provoke C"V)

I did my research beforehand and heard great things about the place and I was also very happy. My son was beaming daily both when getting on the bus in the morning and getting off in the afternoon.

JoeyShmoe · « **Reply #29 on:** November 18, 2015, 06:15:50 PM »

Quote from: Work-for-ur-muny on November 18, 2015, 06:14:40 PM

I did my research beforehand and heard great things about the place and I was also very happy. My son was beaming daily both when getting on the bus in the morning and getting off in the afternoon.

Cool!! In that case it definitely pays

grodnoking · « **Reply #30 on:** November 18, 2015, 06:47:52 PM »

Quote from: JoeyShmoe on November 18, 2015, 05:55:30 PM

If I list the income as a school I'm assuming that I'd pay taxes, in that case why shouldn't we register it, in which case we wouldn't be shut down

Laws. You wont be able to run out of your basement and every certain amount of kids will need another adult... And more

JoeyShmoe · « **Reply #31 on:** November 18, 2015, 06:49:27 PM »

Quote from: grodnoking on November 18, 2015, 06:47:52 PM

Laws. You wont be able to run out of your basement and every certain amount of kids will need another adult... And more

I hear

churnbabychurn · « **Reply #32 on:** November 18, 2015, 07:05:31 PM »

Quote from: grodnoking on November 18, 2015, 06:47:52 PM

Laws. You wont be able to run out of your basement and every certain amount of kids will need another adult... And more

Much much more, the rule book is massive. You need to be sanitary etc etc....
The max kids you can have in an unregistered and unlicensed facility is 5.

Besides, even if you go legal, zoning wouldn't allow a school anywhere and Insurance would be prohibitively expensive etc.

I always wonder what would happen if the state had reason to get involved here..

JoeyShmoe · « **Reply #33 on:** November 18, 2015, 08:30:28 PM »

Quote from: churnbabychurn on November 18, 2015, 07:05:31 PM

Much much more, the rule book is massive. You need to be sanitary etc etc....
The max kids you can have in an unregistered and unlicensed facility is 5.

Besides, even if you go legal, zoning wouldn't allow a school anywhere and Insurance would be prohibitively expensive etc.

I always wonder what would happen if the state had reason to get involved here..

Are there any potential repercussions other than shutting the playgroup down?

Ergel · « **Reply #34 on:** November 19, 2015, 12:46:35 AM »

I'm confused. A money making machine? $240/month for how many kids? 10? That's $2400 a month x 12 is under $30K. And can you handle 10 kids on your own?

JoeyShmoe · « **Reply #35 on:** November 19, 2015, 12:54:19 AM »

$2400/mo for a work from home P/T (9:30-2) job is pretty nice, there's pretty much no overhead since there's a registration fee which you buy supplies with

tzifanya54 · « **Reply #36 on:** November 19, 2015, 01:58:11 AM »

$500 a month 9-3:30. No food.

upside down · « **Reply #37 on:** November 19, 2015, 08:46:22 AM »

Quote from: Ergel on November 19, 2015, 12:46:35 AM

I'm confused. A money making machine? $240/month for how many kids? 10? That's $2400 a month x 12 is under $30K. And can you handle 10 kids on your own?

many people are paying $400-500 a month. Brings total to about $50k

churnbabychurn · « **Reply #38 on:** November 19, 2015, 10:25:28 AM »

Quote from: upside down on November 19, 2015, 08:46:22 AM

many people are paying $400-500 a month. Brings total to about $50k

That's for the licensed places. The prices are massively inflated because most clients are funded through CHS. A government program that tax payers fund.
These taxpayers in turn now cannot afford licensed daycare.
#irony

churnbabychurn · « **Reply #39 on:** December 03, 2015, 10:11:29 PM »

A 4yo playgroup can comfortably charge 225 per month, while primary school charges 450 tuition. Why?
I'm crunching the numbers, and its pretty clear that owning a school is an excellent buisness idea.
Think about a brand new school with just a primary class, how is his overhead douple that of the playgroup? ... As the school grows, tuition revenue increases, fixed costs are fixed.. Contribution margin grow$$$