Author Topic: welchs grape juice (Read 9415 times)

bades · « **on:** February 24, 2011, 08:49:41 PM »

Is it kosher, it has a K on it??

danielz · « **Reply #1 on:** February 24, 2011, 08:51:19 PM »

chazer fleicsh

Chaikel · « **Reply #2 on:** February 25, 2011, 12:44:34 AM »

Definitely use to be Kosher. My cousin was the mashgiach on it. Call Star K

Cholentfresser · « **Reply #3 on:** February 25, 2011, 12:52:18 AM »

i've once heard from a mashgiach that since the letter "k" can't be copyrighted, it means absolutely nothing.

Chaikel · « **Reply #4 on:** February 25, 2011, 01:03:25 AM »

Quote from: Cholentfresser on February 25, 2011, 12:52:18 AM

i've once heard from a mashgiach that since the letter "k" can't be copyrighted,

That's true

Quote from: Cholentfresser on February 25, 2011, 12:52:18 AM

it means absolutely nothing.

Well what it usually means is that the company thinks it's kosher. You can't rely on it, but a qualified kashus organization would know. Pepsi and GM cereals (to name a few) only had a K for years and was under the OU. I'm not saying eat it, I'm saying you have to ask.

Things may have changed in the past 15 years, but Welch's was definitely kosher (90% sure it was by the OU) at some point

Dan · « **Reply #5 on:** February 25, 2011, 01:11:06 AM »

Welch's was kosher for a short period of time but no longer is AFAIK.
And a K on Kellogg's cereal is generally considered to be a good hechsher.

Deal Guy · « **Reply #6 on:** February 25, 2011, 01:54:19 AM »

Quote from: Dan on February 25, 2011, 01:11:06 AM

And a K on Kellogg's cereal is generally considered to be a good hechsher.

I've heard so as well. But why do they only go with a K? Is there a story behind it?

Cholentfresser · « **Reply #7 on:** February 25, 2011, 03:23:20 AM »

I'm sure if the K on kellogs is kosher, its not because the K means anything. it must be because some kashrus orginazation says its kosher. so then why can't they just put their hechsher on it instead of the K?

Chaikel · « **Reply #8 on:** February 25, 2011, 03:55:42 AM »

From what I've heard, in Europe very few commercial foods have a hechsher on them. For whatever reason, some companies don't want to put the symbol on their products. They might be afraid that anti-semites would boycott their products.

bades · « **Reply #9 on:** February 25, 2011, 07:24:32 AM »

. bottom line if someone is away, and thats all the gj they have do they make kiddush on it

Chaikel · « **Reply #10 on:** February 25, 2011, 07:34:09 AM »

Like I said call starK

Avid Reader · « **Reply #11 on:** February 25, 2011, 07:54:42 AM »

Quote from: Deal Guy on February 25, 2011, 01:54:19 AM

I've heard so as well. But why do they only go with a K? Is there a story behind it?

Quote from: Cholentfresser on February 25, 2011, 03:23:20 AM

I'm sure if the K on kellogs is kosher, its not because the K means anything. it must be because some kashrus orginazation says its kosher. so then why can't they just put their hechsher on it instead of the K?

It cost money, and perhaps they don't want to pay it.

jack12 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 25, 2011, 08:13:42 AM »

From what I've heard, they put a k because sometimes, the hashgacha changes and they don't want to need to have to re-design a label and repackage everything just because of a 'minor' kashrus symbol. So they just always leave a k and design packaging with a k and if the kashrus organization behind the k changes, who cares.

deals · « **Reply #13 on:** February 25, 2011, 08:21:19 AM »

Quote from: bades on February 25, 2011, 07:24:32 AM

. bottom line if someone is away, and thats all the gj they have do they make kiddush on it

Call star k but if u don't make kiddush on bread

regalhome · « **Reply #14 on:** February 25, 2011, 09:07:26 AM »

Quote from: Dan on February 25, 2011, 01:11:06 AM

Welch's was kosher for a short period of time but no longer is AFAIK.
And a K on Kellogg's cereal is generally considered to be a good hechsher.

Star Ktold me actually visit some of the Kellogg`s plants, and can eat it.

elikay · « **Reply #15 on:** February 25, 2011, 09:26:50 AM »

Kellogs is kosher not because of the k, rather whichever ones were checked into and found to be ok (which I think might be the ones with a k) I recently read that welchs tried being kosher but were not succesfull at breaking in to the market due to taste preferences (people are used to the heavy sweet grape juice, ever tasted israeli GJ?

) In conclusion Welch's is no longer certified and cannot be used under any circumstances (as grape juice has major issues of stam yeinom and yayin nesech so if there's no supervision, you've automatically got a problem).

Dan · « **Reply #16 on:** February 25, 2011, 09:40:02 AM »

In case anyone else is feeling deja vu, I finally located the previous discussion on this topic!
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/6765

mancunian · « **Reply #17 on:** February 26, 2011, 09:13:25 PM »

Quote from: Dan on February 25, 2011, 01:11:06 AM

And a K on Kellogg's cereal is generally considered to be a good hechsher.

I once bought Special K for a yeshiva i was a shliach in, and the stupid chassidish kids told the menahel i bought food without a hechsher, and the guy didn't really give a damn, just used it against me the next time it was convenient.
Bottom line, i called someone up (nathanson i think) and he said its under vaad rabannim of massachusetts i believe, although i take no responsibility as i don't remember the details so well. And i never figured why the kids cared if the staffs food they stole was kosher. unless the heter of R. Moshe....

Quote from: bades on February 25, 2011, 07:24:32 AM

. bottom line if someone is away, and thats all the gj they have do they make kiddush on it

Buy some smirnoff. much more available than welchs

Quote from: elikay on February 25, 2011, 09:26:50 AM

as grape juice has major issues of stam yeinom and yayin nesech so if there's no supervision, you've automatically got a problem

How can you ever be meikel on this? worse than...

Quote from: danielz on February 24, 2011, 08:51:19 PM

chazer fleicsh

username · « **Reply #18 on:** April 05, 2016, 10:58:47 AM »

Teaming up, Welch’s and Manischewitz challenge kosher grape juice monopoly | Jewish Telegraphic Agency

hvaces42 · « **Reply #19 on:** April 05, 2016, 11:01:13 AM »

Quote from: username on April 05, 2016, 10:58:47 AM

deja vu
Teaming up, Welch’s and Manischewitz challenge kosher grape juice monopoly | Jewish Telegraphic Agency

Bought a bottle will run a taste test today and if it passes muster I'm all in. Cheaper than Kedem by 15%