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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #200 on: December 07, 2015, 10:10:43 PM »
-1, STOLI is illegal, life settlement is not.
Meant illegal based on insurance laws, it's supposed to be owned by someone with insurable interest, not some investor.
Based on which law are you saying that?

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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #201 on: December 07, 2015, 10:16:19 PM »
Meant illegal based on insurance laws, it's supposed to be owned by someone with insurable interest, not some investor.
-1, what I said is based on insurance laws. As long as the policy was originated with an insatiable insurable interest, it can later be sold to an outside party in a life settlement.
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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #202 on: December 07, 2015, 10:29:01 PM »
-1, what I said is based on insurance laws. As long as the policy was originated with an insatiable interest, it can later be sold to an outside party in a life settlement.
You probably meant to write insurable interest, not insatiable interest (which is what everyone in these forums has for good deals ;).)
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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #203 on: December 10, 2015, 02:03:31 AM »
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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #204 on: December 19, 2015, 07:54:10 PM »
Talked to my agent about this, and it seems to be 330 per year, not 250. And cash surrender value is 14k

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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #205 on: December 19, 2015, 08:08:04 PM »
Talked to my agent about this, and it seems to be 330 per year, not 250. And cash surrender value is 14k
$250 is for under 1.5.

And that $14k number you were given is at the end of the policy year in which the child finishes the year aged 20.

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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #206 on: December 19, 2015, 08:38:46 PM »
Tachlis, did anyone apply?

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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #207 on: December 19, 2015, 09:52:17 PM »
Tachlis, did anyone apply?
is this really not void if i dont have 1,000,000 insurance on myself and insurance on all my kids?

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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #208 on: December 20, 2015, 10:08:59 AM »
Does anyone know when this is ending? Also if I don't have a policy for myself can I first apply for this and then get a policy for myself right away? I would do mine first I just don't want to miss the deal.

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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #209 on: December 20, 2015, 10:12:59 AM »
Who says you need insurance on yourself

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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #210 on: December 20, 2015, 10:19:54 AM »
This was discussed earlier on the forum but it's also here http://www.chasunafund.com/f-a-q.html that parents need to have a million dollar policy.

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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #211 on: December 20, 2015, 12:09:19 PM »
according to the agent i deal with this is ending dec 31

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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #212 on: December 20, 2015, 12:15:54 PM »
NY State law is one of the strongest out there when it comes to insurance. Contestability period is limited to two years. After two years the insurance company cannot contest the policy. Even if they could do something, that would require them to go to court, which would not be worth it for them for such small amounts. The legal fees would simply not justify it, and they are likely to lose.

I'm not a lawyer, but would they necessarily have to take each individual to court? Would they not simply be able to claim before a judge that there was a pricing error and get authority to cancel all plans issued under that error and send a refund check to those individuals?

Furthermore, would they not be able to claim that licensed brokers knowingly advertised and signed up individuals for this plan which was clearly a pricing error?

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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #213 on: December 20, 2015, 12:17:23 PM »
Do you have to prove the 4x coverage for parents? If it only has to last 2 years until the company can't back out no matter what, i don't mind risking $500. The agent I emailed was unclear about the grandparents.
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #214 on: December 20, 2015, 12:22:35 PM »
Do you have to prove the 4x coverage for parents? If it only has to last 2 years until the company can't back out no matter what, i don't mind risking $500. The agent I emailed was unclear about the grandparents.
i just applied for this and the agent didnt ask me for any proof that i am having life insurance for me and other siblings, and didnt mention anything about it. I just woder if someone wants to surrend the policy if they can then ask for proof that u had coverage by the time applying

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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #215 on: December 20, 2015, 12:23:42 PM »
i just applied for this and the agent didnt ask me for any proof that i am having life insurance for me and other siblings, and didnt mention anything about it. I just woder if someone wants to surrend the policy if they can then ask for proof that u had coverage by the time applying
That's what I'm wondering.  I'm unclear on the parameters of this 2 year law.
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #216 on: December 20, 2015, 12:31:13 PM »
That's what I'm wondering.  I'm unclear on the parameters of this 2 year law.
going to ask my agent if he knows, will report back

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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #217 on: December 20, 2015, 12:33:53 PM »
going to ask my agent if he knows, will report back
Thanks. Want to know what happens if they ask for evidence that you were insured at the time.
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #218 on: December 20, 2015, 12:34:06 PM »
Do you have to prove the 4x coverage for parents? If it only has to last 2 years until the company can't back out no matter what, i don't mind risking $500. The agent I emailed was unclear about the grandparents.
Grandparents can buy if parent has 500k...interesting tax planning perspective

Paging henche....

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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #219 on: December 20, 2015, 12:37:43 PM »
Grandparents can buy if parent has 500k...interesting tax planning perspective
Parents must have 2x for grandparents to buy?
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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