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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #360 on: December 20, 2021, 08:38:41 PM »
Thanks.. I have a payment to make.

I got a letter about this. IIRC servicing will remain with Allstate for a certain period (my guess is not very long), so while Allstate is servicing I am guessing we can still make CC payments.
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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #361 on: December 20, 2021, 10:23:09 PM »
I got a letter about this. IIRC servicing will remain with Allstate for a certain period (my guess is not very long), so while Allstate is servicing I am guessing we can still make CC payments.

Can you prepay?

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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #362 on: December 20, 2021, 10:25:12 PM »
Yup, i got the letter too.

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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #363 on: December 20, 2021, 10:29:42 PM »
Can you prepay?

I don't think so. Unless you mean pay annual premium a month or two early. But you can definitely call and find out.
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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #364 on: December 21, 2021, 10:45:34 AM »
This brings back good memories

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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #365 on: December 21, 2021, 10:47:53 AM »
This brings back good memories

Those memories come once a year when I get the premium notices.
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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #366 on: December 21, 2021, 11:30:34 AM »
Those memories come once a year when I get the premium notices.
Yup, I actually enjoy paying the bill.

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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #367 on: December 21, 2021, 12:21:09 PM »
Yup, I actually enjoy paying the bill.

Same is true for all of my seasoned Whole Life policies.

To quote something I saw today:

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We argue (and have since forever) that whole life and indexed universal life insurance were not designed to outperform an equity index. No, instead cash value life insurance is intended to offer low-risk savings with stable returns and more predictability over decades.

When you look at life insurance in that light it shines like a diamond.

And just like a diamond, your cash value life insurance starts off looking a lot more like a lump of coal. But don't worry, it gets better with age.
https://theinsuranceproblog.com/life-insurance-gets-better-with-age/
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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #368 on: October 26, 2023, 03:38:05 PM »
As many know, Allstate sold their Life Insurance Business in NY to Wilson Reassurance Life Company of NY.

Unfortunately, one can expect a deterioration in service. I don't know if Wilson accepts CC payments as Allstate did.

I have one client that found some random name listed as the owner on his annual bill.

Fortunately, this product is a 100% guaranteed product, so there could be no change in terms, whatever one signed up for, is what they still have (except for the company). If one runs into issues with Wilson, I recommend complaining to the BBB as well as the NYS Insurance Commissioner.
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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #369 on: October 26, 2023, 03:41:52 PM »
As many know, Allstate sold their Life Insurance Business in NY to Wilson Reassurance Life Company of NY.

Unfortunately, one can expect a deterioration in service. I don't know if Wilson accepts CC payments as Allstate did.

I have one client that found some random name listed as the owner on his annual bill.

Fortunately, this product is a 100% guaranteed product, so there could be no change in terms, whatever one signed up for, is what they still have (except for the company). If one runs into issues with Wilson, I recommend complaining to the BBB as well as the NYS Insurance Commissioner.

Oh I see my policies no longer showing up in my Allstate login.

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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #370 on: October 26, 2023, 03:44:47 PM »
Oh I see my policies no longer showing up in my Allstate login.

The sale to Wilson actually took place quite a while ago, but for the first year or so after the sale, Allstate was still servicing the policies. That is no longer true.
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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #371 on: October 26, 2023, 10:14:39 PM »
The sale to Wilson actually took place quite a while ago, but for the first year or so after the sale, Allstate was still servicing the policies. That is no longer true.
Right, I remember seeing that. Let's see how they behave.

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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #372 on: December 28, 2023, 08:49:32 PM »
Received my two bills in the mail yesterday and the due date was already the 17th.. Wilton Reassurance Liife Company of NY who took over these policies looks like an extremely sloppy operational company. Also, no website or phone number on the documents and barely any info on it. Rated F by the BBB, no wonder.

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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #373 on: December 28, 2023, 08:51:44 PM »
Received my two bills in the mail yesterday and the due date was already the 17th.. Seems like an extremely sloppy operational company. Also, no website or phone number on the documents and barely any info on it. Rated F by the BBB, no wonder.

EVERYONE who owns these policies and got a bill from Wilton. PLEASE complain to NY regulators as well as the BBB.

This company has no clue how to run a retail service operation. They should not be servicing the policies.
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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #374 on: December 28, 2023, 09:04:41 PM »
Received my two bills in the mail yesterday and the due date was already the 17th.. Wilton Reassurance Liife Company of NY who took over these policies looks like an extremely sloppy operational company. Also, no website or phone number on the documents and barely any info on it. Rated F by the BBB, no wonder.

Are they trying to find reasons to cancel the policies?
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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #375 on: December 28, 2023, 09:13:39 PM »
Are they trying to find reasons to cancel the policies?

That was my guess.. Although usually policies have a like a 30 day grace period but none was disclosed on the statement. Even searching online doesn't get you proper results.

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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #376 on: December 28, 2023, 09:20:31 PM »
Very shady stuff. I got a cancellation notice in the mail when I obviously never requested one. Called them they said oh sorry must’ve been a mistake. Beware
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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #377 on: December 28, 2023, 10:22:08 PM »
Is there any way to look up my policy online?  I have not recieved a statement yet from wilton but want to call and pay instead of waiting. anyone know the best number to reach wilton about this?
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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #378 on: December 29, 2023, 07:33:04 AM »
EVERYONE who owns these policies and got a bill from Wilton. PLEASE complain to NY regulators as well as the BBB.

This company has no clue how to run a retail service operation. They should not be servicing the policies.

Didn't even get a bill. Can you post wilton numbers so we can pay before the policy lapses, and please post what regulators we should be contacting

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Re: Newborn baby girl in New York life insurance deal!
« Reply #379 on: December 29, 2023, 11:36:04 AM »
« Last Edit: December 29, 2023, 11:47:14 AM by ExGingi »
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