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Re: Candles lighting in airport?
« Reply #40 on: December 09, 2015, 03:07:29 PM »
But what would be say about LED flashlights?
I think u need a bulb one.
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Re: Candles lighting in airport?
« Reply #41 on: December 09, 2015, 03:18:42 PM »
I think u need a bulb one.

Does the over head light work?

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Re: Candles lighting in airport?
« Reply #42 on: December 09, 2015, 03:59:38 PM »
No need. Every seat has a light with a switch to turn on.
RSZ was of the opinion that a battery operated device is preferable because it has its own limited fuel supply similar to a menorah.
CMIIW, but the light on the airplane would also have a limited fuel supply.
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Candles lighting in airport?
« Reply #43 on: December 09, 2015, 04:26:05 PM »
CMIIW, but the light on the airplane would also have a limited fuel supply.
limited but not individual

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Re: Candles lighting in airport?
« Reply #44 on: December 09, 2015, 04:50:50 PM »
Does the over head light work?
Think it needs to be one of the ones that get hot maybe, with that spring. Supposed to be like a real fire. Like an old flashlight. Ask your lor
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Re: Candles lighting in airport?
« Reply #45 on: December 09, 2015, 04:55:34 PM »
I think u need a bulb one.
That's what i would think also. LED probably doesn't have a דין אש. Most flashlights these days are LED. That's why the overhead light might be better. (Of course, if you're prepared, just bring the right kind of flashlight.)
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Re: Candles lighting in airport?
« Reply #46 on: December 10, 2015, 01:42:45 AM »
That's what i would think also. LED probably doesn't have a דין אש. Most flashlights these days are LED. That's why the overhead light might be better. (Of course, if you're prepared, just bring the right kind of flashlight.)
I guess that disqualifies a cellphone light

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Re: Candles lighting in airport?
« Reply #47 on: December 10, 2015, 06:36:05 AM »
I once lit at the FCT in Frankfurt airport. Used the cigar lounge as it was empty and I knew there would not be smoke alarm...

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Re: Candles lighting in airport?
« Reply #48 on: December 10, 2015, 06:37:14 AM »
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not if you have a meal there and someone else sees the candles

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Re: Candles lighting in airport?
« Reply #49 on: December 10, 2015, 06:45:12 AM »
not if you have a meal there and someone else sees the candles

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Re: Candles lighting in airport?
« Reply #50 on: December 10, 2015, 07:05:15 AM »
WRONG -החיוב הוא רק בבית
ooh just dismissing the different shittos azoi without even knowing who are the poskim who mention it as an option will find the mare mekomos later
Eta: מחבר סימן תרע״ז סעיף ג׳ says בפירוש to light so it's not as פשוט as you wrote
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Re: Candles lighting in airport?
« Reply #51 on: December 10, 2015, 09:57:26 AM »
you can only appoint a shliach to light in your home, but you dont have to be there
That's right. At least some day so. But to say "you can make a shliach" and failing to explain what kinf of shliach is wrong.
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Candles lighting in airport?
« Reply #52 on: December 10, 2015, 10:01:45 AM »
That's right. At least some day so. But to say "you can make a shliach" and failing to explain what kinf of shliach is wrong.
what did you think i meant? of course you cant appoint a shliach in a random place to light for you

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Re: Candles lighting in airport?
« Reply #53 on: December 10, 2015, 10:47:22 AM »
Chiyuv of menorah goes by where you sleep, not eat.
So you can light in a hotel, but you can't light at your brother-in-law's chanukah party.

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Re: Candles lighting in airport?
« Reply #54 on: December 10, 2015, 12:00:10 PM »
Chiyuv of menorah goes by where you sleep, not eat.
So you can light in a hotel, but you can't light at your brother-in-law's chanukah party.
Because you say so... If you visit your BIL often and you eat there often then you COULD light by his Chanukah party.
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Candles lighting in airport?
« Reply #55 on: December 10, 2015, 12:02:01 PM »
Because you say so... If you visit your BIL often and you eat there often then you COULD light by his Chanukah party.
alright, ill contain myself and not start up here

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Re: Candles lighting in airport?
« Reply #56 on: December 10, 2015, 12:18:08 PM »
I didn't say you SHOULD, I said you COULD. There are poskim on whom you could be Sumech.
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Re: Candles lighting in airport?
« Reply #57 on: December 10, 2015, 12:20:51 PM »
I didn't say you SHOULD, I said you COULD. There are poskim on whom you could be Sumech.
i wont comment on the accuracy of the comment, bc i may just not know about such poskim, but i will say the following:
this is why shailas shouldnt be posed on DDF. you have ppl, albeit they may know what they are saying, but they are from different backgrounds. what works for one sect may not work for another.

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Re: Candles lighting in airport?
« Reply #58 on: December 10, 2015, 01:10:40 PM »
Because you say so... If you visit your BIL often and you eat there often then you COULD light by his Chanukah party.

Maybe if you pass out on his couch first.  :P

BTW I once hard a rav tell others (not me directly, but heard in a shiur) that if you're in the airport and must light, you should rent one of those little hourly compartments that they rent at some international airports; that way you have a bed. It's more of a "dwelling" then.

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Re: Candles lighting in airport?
« Reply #59 on: December 10, 2015, 02:07:43 PM »
i wont comment on the accuracy of the comment, bc i may just not know about such poskim, but i will say the following:
this is why shailas shouldnt be posed on DDF. you have ppl, albeit they may know what they are saying, but they are from different backgrounds. what works for one sect may not work for another.
Agree. This precisely the points Im as well trying to make. @gold said that OP should make a Shaliach without explaining the details and OP said will do! DDF should not be your LOR period.

And oh, there are poskim who agree that Direh does not necessary mean that you sleep there, it can also be called Direh if you sleep there.
You can say what you think when you think what you say.