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Why do misnagdim shave?
« on: December 24, 2015, 11:37:20 PM »
Why look for the heter when it doesn't even look good?

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Re: Why do misnagdim shave?
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2015, 11:38:11 PM »
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Re: Why do misnagdim shave?
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2015, 11:40:17 PM »
So people shouldn't think they are chassidish
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Re: Why do misnagdim shave?
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2015, 11:41:32 PM »
Why look for the heter when it doesn't even look good?
The hair of  beard is full of tumeh'diga nitzotzos - so they wanna get rid of it.
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Re: Why do misnagdim shave?
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2015, 11:43:34 PM »
You are mixed up.
 The chasidim shave, and theres a thread about that already.
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Re: Why do misnagdim shave?
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2015, 11:45:16 PM »
Why look for the heter when it doesn't even look good?
See this thread about looking good
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=14623.0

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Re: Why do misnagdim shave?
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2015, 12:21:00 AM »
Who was it that would vomit when seeing a clean shaven man?

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Re: Why do misnagdim shave?
« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2015, 12:21:57 AM »
Who was it that would vomit when seeing a clean shaven man?
Besides me, you mean?

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Re: Why do misnagdim shave?
« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2015, 12:23:53 AM »

Besides me, you mean?
Well I don't know who you are irl, so you may be the person im referring to. But I recall hearing that about some back in the day gadol.

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Re: Why do misnagdim shave?
« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2015, 12:55:28 AM »
The hair of  beard is full of tumeh'diga nitzotzos - so they wanna get rid of it.
Lol. You mean klippos?
If you don't care why would you comment?
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Re: Why do misnagdim shave?
« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2015, 01:25:28 AM »
The better question is -Why is it only Chabad who still refers to non-chassidim as misnagdim? Especially today when gantz Klal Yosroel recognizes Chassidim?

While we're on the topic- why don't other chassidim recognize Chabad as "real" Chassidim even though Chabad was one of the original?

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Re: Why do misnagdim shave?
« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2015, 01:38:14 AM »
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Re: Why do misnagdim shave?
« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2015, 01:41:05 AM »
why cant we all just get along?

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Re: Why do misnagdim shave?
« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2015, 02:08:37 AM »
Why look for the heter when it doesn't even look good?
You gotta do better than that.
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: Why do misnagdim shave?
« Reply #15 on: December 25, 2015, 02:11:54 AM »
why cant we all just get along?
And shave or not shave?
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Re: Why do misnagdim shave?
« Reply #16 on: December 25, 2015, 02:13:12 AM »

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Re: Why do misnagdim shave?
« Reply #17 on: December 25, 2015, 02:13:44 AM »
And shave or not shave?
Walk around with burkas, so nobody will know.
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: Why do misnagdim shave?
« Reply #18 on: December 25, 2015, 02:18:18 AM »
The hair of  beard is full of tumeh'diga nitzotzos - so they wanna get rid of it.
Just to set the record straight. According to Kabbala of the AriZal. Any hair on the head (perhaps only near the top) is associated with יניקת החיצוניים.
The energy of the brain that makes it through the scull is similar to the leftover bones after a party that are served to the dogs.

Therefore, those who's traditions don't have an emphasis on growing פאות long (such as Chabad) cut thier פאות short to the halachic requirements, as well as cutting the rest of the hair on top of their head short. (We are familiar with communities who take removing the hair on top of the head very seriously for the very same reason, yet their leaders make a big emphasis on growing their פאות long, ותבא עליהם ברכה. )

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Re: Why do misnagdim shave?
« Reply #19 on: December 25, 2015, 02:20:17 AM »
Just to set the record straight. According to Kabbala of the AriZal. Any hair on the head (perhaps only near the top) is associated with יניקת החיצוניים.
The energy of the brain that makes it through the scull is similar to the leftover bones after a party that are served to the dogs.

Therefore, those who's traditions don't have an emphasis on growing פאות long (such as Chabad) cut thier פאות short to the halachic requirements, as well as cutting the rest of the hair on top of their head short. (We are familiar with communities who take removing the hair on top of the head very seriously for the very same reason, yet their leaders make a big emphasis on growing their פאות long, ותבא עליהם ברכה. )
ETA: I have tremendous respect for all communities who follow that which they are taught be their leaders and don't mean to degrade any such customs and communities.
It is my sincere hope that no offence is taken as no offence was intended to be given.