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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1160 on: October 04, 2021, 09:22:35 PM »
https://hefkervelt.blogspot.com/2021/10/monday-oct-4-news-updates-lakewood.html

- Some playgroups are planning on raising the price significantly starting next year.The reason for the increase is that parents will be eligible for a tax credit and can claim up to 50% of $8,000 in childcare expenses for a maximum of two children capped at $16,000.

Isn't the reason because mayonnaise doubled in price
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1161 on: October 04, 2021, 09:57:03 PM »
https://hefkervelt.blogspot.com/2021/10/monday-oct-4-news-updates-lakewood.html

- Some playgroups are planning on raising the price significantly starting next year.The reason for the increase is that parents will be eligible for a tax credit and can claim up to 50% of $8,000 in childcare expenses for a maximum of two children capped at $16,000.

Isn't the reason because mayonnaise doubled in price
Shame on them if true.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1162 on: October 04, 2021, 10:04:09 PM »
why in the world don't schools in lakewood start from nursery? core of the issue
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1163 on: October 04, 2021, 10:50:25 PM »
https://hefkervelt.blogspot.com/2021/10/monday-oct-4-news-updates-lakewood.html

- Some playgroups are planning on raising the price significantly starting next year.The reason for the increase is that parents will be eligible for a tax credit and can claim up to 50% of $8,000 in childcare expenses for a maximum of two children capped at $16,000.

Isn't the reason because mayonnaise doubled in price

All families are eligible or it depends on income?
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1164 on: October 04, 2021, 10:58:22 PM »
Shame on them if true.
Every other business does this why shouldn't they do it too
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1165 on: October 04, 2021, 11:39:37 PM »
Every other business does this why shouldn't they do it too
Takes more money from me because my grandfather gave me a Chanukah present???

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1166 on: October 05, 2021, 09:24:31 AM »
Takes more money from me because my grandfather gave me a Chanukah present???
actually not
2 things #1 supply and demand
#2 they actually now have to report it if you want the credit
(#3 for those saying it's only for 2 parents working... also untrue because if 2nd spouse a student it's as if both are employed)

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1167 on: October 05, 2021, 09:26:29 AM »
actually not
2 things #1 supply and demand
#2 they actually now have to report it if you want the credit
(#3 for those saying it's only for 2 parents working... also untrue because if 2nd spouse a student it's as if both are employed)
That helps if the husband is in kollel, but if the wife is a stay at home mother while the husband works they are not eligible.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1168 on: October 05, 2021, 09:29:08 AM »
That helps if the husband is in kollel, but if the wife is a stay at home mother while the husband works they are not eligible.
But then they are gvirim so we should charge them more anyhow
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1169 on: October 05, 2021, 09:30:58 AM »
But then they are gvirim so we should charge them more anyhow
yeah and they can take half off ma'aser

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1171 on: October 06, 2021, 01:26:31 PM »

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The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1172 on: October 06, 2021, 01:44:23 PM »
Any way to bypass paywall?

Anyways, it's such a massive Chillul Hashem. Literally the whole world talks about the chutzpah of this guy. And it hurts all of us.
To be fair, he seems to do a lot more than just legal counsel for the BOE. Still it's really excessive, even for a defacto commissioner.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1174 on: October 06, 2021, 05:07:41 PM »
If i'm not mistaken, there are two state appointed monitors who have to sign off on every BOE expenditure in Lakewood.
And everyone refuses to comment how this is acceptable. Which is why it makes it look even more like something shady is going on.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1175 on: October 06, 2021, 06:42:24 PM »
If i'm not mistaken, there are two state appointed monitors who have to sign off on every BOE expenditure in Lakewood.
+1 (at least one state monitor that I know of, but he had to sign off on this)

The APP hates MI, and they take every opportunity to bash him. I am not getting into the crux of the matter, as it involves the potential that something I say will cause someone to respond with lashon harah, but what I know to be true is that the APP just keeps pushing this narrative while overlooking the most basic question: that a state monitor - who has full veto power - approved it, so there must be something more to this story.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1176 on: October 06, 2021, 06:58:59 PM »
+1 (at least one state monitor that I know of, but he had to sign off on this)

The APP hates MI, and they take every opportunity to bash him. I am not getting into the crux of the matter, as it involves the potential that something I say will cause someone to respond with lashon harah, but what I know to be true is that the APP just keeps pushing this narrative while overlooking the most basic question: that a state monitor - who has full veto power - approved it, so there must be something more to this story.
They're using public funds for this, so they definitely owe an explanation. Why is the BOE treating the justification like classified information?

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1177 on: October 07, 2021, 07:51:13 AM »
They're using public funds for this, so they definitely owe an explanation. Why is the BOE treating the justification like classified information?
Why don't you call a BOE member and ask. The fact they won't tell the APP is not an indication that they won't tell you.

In my experience, they have been quick to explain why they do things when asked.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1178 on: October 07, 2021, 08:11:56 AM »
Why don't you call a BOE member and ask. The fact they won't tell the APP is not an indication that they won't tell you.

In my experience, they have been quick to explain why they do things when asked.
Good idea. I will, and report back.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1179 on: October 07, 2021, 07:31:16 PM »
Good idea. I will, and report back.
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