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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #181 on: February 19, 2016, 04:41:25 PM »
Since when is the fire elections a Zach?
Is this a machlokes mamash lishmoh?

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #182 on: February 20, 2016, 11:18:24 PM »

Since when is the fire elections a Zach?
Is this a machlokes mamash lishmoh?
is anything?

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #183 on: February 21, 2016, 01:29:38 AM »
Since when is the fire elections a Zach?
Is this a machlokes mamash lishmoh?
I seem to remember you saying that if a machlokes is totally lishmo it is a problem.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #184 on: February 22, 2016, 02:02:36 AM »
Just to clear up the shtreimal questions. Up until ~ 15 years ago there was an (un)official takana in Bmg not to bring a shtreimal into the Beis medrash.
The effect of this was that for the most part, people only wore shtreimals at home, Bmg was the center of the community.


Can anyone please write a valid reason that Shtreimel's weren't allowed in BMG? Other than petty political and power reasons?
It'd probably like there are shuls now that don't allow to take out a smartphone in shul, in other words "your unwelcome"

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #185 on: February 22, 2016, 08:15:17 AM »
It'd probably like there are shuls now that don't allow to take out a smartphone in shul, in other words "your unwelcome"
I think the point is that the smartphone is unwelcome

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #186 on: February 22, 2016, 12:46:44 PM »
I think the point is that the smartphone is unwelcome
+1

It'd probably like there are shuls now that don't allow to take out a smartphone in shul, in other words "your unwelcome"
You don't see why someone would consider a smartphone to be inappropriate in the shul? ??? :o :o :o
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #187 on: February 22, 2016, 03:02:26 PM »
+1
You don't see why someone would consider a smartphone to be inappropriate in the shul? ??? :o :o :o
But I do use my phone as a sidur, chumash and sefer - but not in Lakewood shuls...

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #188 on: February 22, 2016, 03:33:56 PM »
But I do use my phone as a sidur, chumash and sefer - but not in Lakewood shuls...
I get that but there are so many who spend mariv on WhatApp etc that there is good reason to say that it lowers the decorum of the shul. I am not telling you or him what to do but to say that it means that they don't want certain people is utterly ridiculous, unless it is along the lines of "we don't want people who talk in shul". In general I would only daven from my phone when left with no other choice including baal peh but that is my personal thing.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #190 on: February 26, 2016, 07:34:48 AM »
http://matzav.com/are-large-frum-communities-and-attention-to-quality-of-life-issues-contradictory/



Here's why a moratorium on building will never happen:
30-50% of the Lakewood economy depends on the real estate industry.

From builders to suppliers to interior designers to agents to day labourers.
A moratorium would mean thousands loosing their parnassa.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #191 on: February 26, 2016, 11:07:44 AM »
not if they can do it in a different town like Howell, TR and Jackson
Egg Harbor anyone

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #192 on: February 26, 2016, 11:34:24 AM »
http://matzav.com/are-large-frum-communities-and-attention-to-quality-of-life-issues-contradictory/



Here's why a moratorium on building will never happen:
30-50% of the Lakewood economy depends on the real estate industry.

From builders to suppliers to interior designers to agents to day labourers.
A moratorium would mean thousands loosing their parnassa.

You know Lakewood isn't the only place where real estate exists, right?
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #193 on: February 26, 2016, 01:28:58 PM »
You know Lakewood isn't the only place where real estate exists, right?
it is with that standard of building and zoning codes and enforcement

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #194 on: February 26, 2016, 01:50:05 PM »
You know Lakewood isn't the only place where real estate exists, right?
Open up the voice for example. 50% of businesses service the LOCAL real estate industry.
How would it help local businesses if new comun8ties open elsewhere?

(BTW, the other 20% of business are clothing, 20% food, 10% "other". )